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Empire Games just clued me in to this one:

<h4 align="center">Wage War Upon the Waves</h4>

<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" bgcolor="#ffffff"> <tbody> <tr> <td class="size4red" align="center">Opening Salvo: War at Sea</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="size3" align="center">Player Quick Start Guide</td> </tr> <tr> <td>

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Dive bombers scream down from the skies, zeroing in on enemy flattops. Battleships blast away with their enormous guns, hurling shells weighing thousands of pounds. Submarines skulk beneath the sea, looking for the chance to fire their deadly torpedoes. To this day, the desperate chase of the Bismarck, the heroic defense of Malta, the defeat at Pearl Harbor, the unlikely victory at Midway, and the long, bitter struggle against the U-boat menace still remind us of the courage and perseverance of countless sailors, airmen, and submariners sixty years ago.

The Axis & Allies Naval Miniatures game is a hard-hitting, action-packed way for you to fight out these furious naval battles on your own kitchen table. Technology, industrial power, and above all human courage decided the fate of the world between 1939 and 1945. Now your skill, luck, and audacity can do the same. With the Axis & Allies Naval Miniatures game, you take command of fleets including powerful battleships, stealthy submarines, fast destroyers, and deadly aircraft. Victory goes to the commander who most skillfully combines air, surface, and submarine assets into a single deadly instrument of sea power.

You can use the [b]Axis & Allies Naval Miniatures game in three ways:[/b]

 

• Play using the competitive Axis & Allies Naval Miniatures rules found in the rule book.
• Recreate historical naval battles and find out whether you could have won if you had been in command.
• Collect the detailed and historically accurate World War II-era fighting ships, submarines, and aircraft represented by the prepainted plastic miniatures.

 

Axis and Allies Naval Miniatures - War at Sea, doesn't hit store shelves until March 2007. Previews will begin sometime in late January 2007, but until then, you can keep yourself busy by reading the Quick Start Guide. The Quick Start Guide gives you the basic rules, plus an early view of miniatures and stat cards.

 

• Download War at Sea: Quick Start Guide (4.1MB zipped .pdf)

Cool idea. I'm curious how they'll divide ships between Germany and Japan, the US and Britain, in these randomly-assorted packs.

It sounds quite nice, and I realise that it is A&A, but no Battle of Skaggerak? Double-You Tee Eff?

If they don't handle scale better than the Star Wars stuff forget it.

I like the idea. Let's hope the minis are well done and worth buying.

I think it would be cool to use the ship miniatures on a basketball court to simulate the open sea. The weapons can be guess range to simulate pre-radar fire control. The possibilities are endless.

Wasn't that how big Sekrieg games were done? I remember way back folks used to block of parts of a parking lot on Sundays to play huge scale games.

http://www.rcwarships.com/rcwarships/

This is a real model warship battle!

I used to play naval battles in a church hall on a 30-40 feet floor.

i'll be playing mongooses victory at sea!

Yeah VaS looks good. There is also Decision Games' 'Battle Stations! Battle Stations!' and even Omega Games' 'Battleship' and 'Line of Battle' board wargames. There is also the new version of the old classic 'General Quarters 3' just released.

I miss those games, even though I never played very many. Almost impossible to find now.

What scale are the models?

The UK edition of General Quarters 2 is still available from NavWar.

http://navwar.co.uk/nav/default.asp?mmid=103

And lest we forget the throngs of rabid Harpoon players.

I really just do not see the point of collectible games. Essentially you can not buy what you want and usually have to play with a substandard set of rules and poorly sculpted miniatures that end up costing more than a comparable line of well sculpted miniatures. While I do collect star wars miniatures it is only because they are the only star wars miniatures available. I picked up some Axis and Allies miniatures to check them out and they are horrible compared to Flames of War minis. Just my two cents.

There is much truth in what you say however many people like collectible games. They're quick and easy, and there can be some fun in the collecting and swapping.

If the rules took off I could break out all my 1/3000 scale WWI and WW2 ships again.

Posted By Kilkrazy on 12/01/2006 2:39 AM
What scale are the models?

1:1800 for the ships and 1:900 for the aircraft

Thanks.

My local group is going to be looking into using these with the new Victory at Sea game from Mongoose Publishing