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Ok this is what I have so far

HQ

 

Farseer 55pts (runs with the banshees)

            Spirit Stone 20pts

            Doom 25pts

            Guide 20pts

 

Warlock 25pts (Run with Wraithguard)

            Spirit seer 6pts

            Singing Spear 3pts

            Enhance 15pts

 

 

Elites

 

8 Fire Dragons 128pts

      In a Wave serpent 90pts

            Star engines 15pts

            Vectored engines 20pts

            Twin Linked Star Cannon 35pts

 

8 Howling Banshees 128pts

      Exarch 12pts

            Mirror Swords 10pts

            Acrobatic 5pts

 

5 Wraithguard 175pts

      In Wave serpent 90pts

            Twin linked star cannon 35pts

            Vectored 20pts

 

 

Heavy Support

 

Wraithlord 90pts

            Star Cannon 30pts

            Bright Lance 40pts

 

Total 1092

 

Ok This list is made to try and combat a Space Marine Army.  I am thinking of Taking the Wave Serpent off of the Wraithguard and Putting it with the Banshees or just put them in one.  I would be willing to listen to any bits of advice anyone has on my army. Plus I need help with what Troop choices anyone thinks would compliment this army or any other good ideas to fill out my last 400 plus change of points.

 

If you have any questions go ahead and ask. Thanks for any help.


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Ok I figured maybe it would help if I explain what my game plan is.

The Fire Dragons I am going to try and get them around to the back or side of my opponent to try and take out any vehicles or heavy infantry like termies. Thats why I have the Star engines.

WIth the Banshees I couldnt decide to go with them or scorpions, but i wne with Banshees because of the power Weapons. The Farseer will hopefully use Doom and Guide on the Unit right before they get into Hth. This with the high Int. and power weapons should hopefully kill most of them. Im contemplating putting them in a wave serpent to get them there faster.

The Wraithguard and Wraithlord are there for some shootyness. And since the wraithguard guns atleast to me seem pretty nasty. Thats why I have the Warlock.

Thats the game plan so far just cant figure out which two troop choices would compliment my guys so far.

I understand that Scissors can beat Paper, and I get how Rock can beat Scissors, but there's no f'n way Paper can beat Rock. Paper is supposed to magically wrap around Rock leaving it immobile? Why the hell can't paper do this to scissors? Screw scissors, why can't paper do this to people? Why aren't sheets of college ruled notebook paper constantly suffocating students as they attempt to take notes in class? I'll tell you why, because paper can't beat anybody, a rock would tear that gak up in 2 seconds. When I play rock/ paper/ scissors, I always choose rock. Then when somebody claims to have beaten me with their paper I can punch them in the face with my already clenched fist and say, oh gak, I'm sorry, I thought paper would protect you, you donkey-cave.

"Rugby is a good occasion for keeping thirty bullies far from the center of the city." - Oscar Wilde 
   
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Well the obvious weakness I see is that the only tropps running around on the board are the banshees so they will be drawing A LOT of fire from anti-personnel weapons. Everything else is either in a tank or is T8 and shrugs off most stuff. I would go with cannon fodder that can still bite back. I know that the others will undoubtedly disagree with me but i am a big user of guardians. I like them in big blocks and I take scatter lasers as the weapon platform coupled with a spearlock and conceal. I generally take units of at least 15 models total. If you run them up the board near the farseer, that gives them a rerollable cover save from the fortune that increases their survivability tremendously. When this unit finally gets close up, you can even throw the guide on them for a large hail of str4 shots. My army generally runs two units and they almost ALWAYS survive till the end. They are a pain to kill and require a lot of shots to take them down. As long as they have h-t-h support nearby (banshees) your opponents will even be worried to charge them....

I would also recommend a min-sized unit of pathfinders for a unit that has a 2+cover save in buildings and cause pinning. They are also great for taking out the odd termie or monstrous creature with their AP1 shots on a 5,6....

Just my two cents...


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i would drop the wraithguard (but save them for power armor armies or armies with ots of tanks...or a godzilla nid army) as they are really expensive and unless they can take out two monoliths/carnifexs/land raiders, i doubt they'll earn their points back. also, most enemy will know what their weapons can do, so will send many shots their way. at 35 points a model, they aren't cheap. use the waveserpent to give those banshees a nice cozy ride.

for troops, a nice, fully kitted out dire avenger squad would do nicely (maybe put them in the waveserpent, and then bladestorm yourself into victory), along with two small-ish guardian squads, just go give yourself numbers. and i agree with poison, a unit of pathfinders would be great.

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OK, I've been playing Eldar since the days when there were only pirates and Harlequins (all hail the backpack grenade launcher full of Vortex grenades!!!). I can't claim to be the best player, but I do have lots of xp and have won more than lost.

1st things 1st...Dire Avengers and Guardians! You need at least 1 10-man squad of DAs with an exarch with Bladestorm. Kit him out otherwise as you wish. I would leave them out of a wave serpent unless you have a specific and purposeful reason to do otherwise.

Guardians should be at least 10-man strong (Warlock w/Conceal if you like) and Star Cannon platform. It moves, it shoots, it kills jarheads d-e-d! They're fairly cheap, fairly reliable, and claim area.

I would say lose the Wraithguard until you are ready to field 2000 pts. I really want to use them (and always have) but I have to believe those large points are better spent elsewhere

Put the Banshees in a wave serpent! Make them a full 10-babe squad...more attacks is always better is HtH!

Take the Dragons out of a wave serpent, make them 6 strong and put them in a Falcon. You don't need more snakes than that to do the job and the Falcon is some kinda good

Oh yeah, I second the idea of rangers or pathfinders...either one would be an excellent 4th troop choice if you have the room

Last observation, I really hate the starcannon/brightlance mix on the Wraithlord. I know, I know...twin-link sux when you don't want it, but it really seems pointless. Either decide it's gonna kill jarheads and light armor, or kill heavy armor...trying to mix both together is gonna waste you shots and points that are better spent elsewhere...like that Falcon maybe!

I know I'm being a smart alek, but I hope this does help you out bunches and good luck! May the wind be at your back and the mon-keigh under your thumb!!!

   
 
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