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Wicked Warp Spider





Chicago

I've been continually beaten using my IG army and as such have been neglecting them recently. Below is my current list. I'm thinking of replacing Iron Discipline with Rough Riders (and add them in place of the Kroot Mercs). I'm also very intrigued by the Abhuman doctrines, esp. Subs (which I probably wouldn't take as I'd have to replace 2 doctrines for it - as Conscripts are on the restricted list) and Feral Ogryns (which, while expensive, would give me some tough assault troops - or big cannon fodder...). Suggestions welcome.

<table width="443" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" style="border-collapse: collapse; width: 332pt;" x:str=""> <col width="379" style="width: 284pt;"></col> <col width="64" style="width: 48pt;"></col> <tbody> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td width="443" height="21" style="height: 15.75pt; width: 332pt;" colspan="2" class="xl26">Callan 51st Rangers Imperial Guard Regiment "The Grim Reapers"</td> </tr> <tr height="20" style="height: 15pt;"> <td height="20" style="height: 15pt;" class="xl31">"Rangers Lead The Way"</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl25">Doctrines:</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Veterans</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Iron Discipline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Sharpshooters (re-roll 1s for shooting BS3 models)</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Light Infantry (Infiltrate, +1 dice for diff. terrain, snipers)</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Cameleoline (+1 cover save)</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl22">HQ</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl22"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Command Platoon</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Command Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Heroic Senior Officer w/ Storm Bolter, Bionics, Medallion </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Crimson; 1 Guardsman w/ Master-vox; 1 Guardsman w/ Plasma</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Gun; 1 Medic; 1 Standard Bearer; Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:fmla="=70+25+10+20+10+12+10" x:num="">157</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Mortar Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">6 Guardsman; 3 Mortars; Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">90</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl22">Elites</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Veteran Squad I</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Veteran  Sgt. w/ Storm Bolter, Medallion Crimson; 1 Vet w/ Vox-</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28">caster; 1 Vet w/ Sniper Rifle; 3 Vets w/ Plasma Guns; Light</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Infantry, Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">128</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Veteran Squad II</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Veteran  Sgt. w/ Storm Bolter, Medallion Crimson; 1 Vet w/ Vox-</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28">caster; 1 Vet w/ Sniper Rifle; 3 Vets w/ Plasma Guns; Light</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Infantry, Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">128</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl22">Troops</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Infantry Platoon</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Command Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" colspan="2">Junior Officer w/ Bolter, Iron Discipline; 1 Guardsman w/ Lasgun, </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" x:str="Voxcaster; 1 Guardsman w/ Grenade Launcher; 2 Guardsmen " style="height: 12.75pt;">Voxcaster; 1 Guardsman w/ Grenade Launcher; 2 Guardsmen </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28">w/ Heavy Bolter; Light Infantry, Sharpshooters, Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">99</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Infantry Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Sergeant w/ Lasgun; 1 Guardsman w/ Lasgun, Voxcaster; 1</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Guardsman w/ Plasma Gun; 1 Guardsman w/ Sniper Rifle; 6</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Guardsmen; Light Infantry, Sharpshooters, Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">110</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Infantry Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Sergeant w/ Lasgun; 1 Guardsman w/ Lasgun, Voxcaster; 1</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Guardsman w/ Plasma Gun; 1 Guardsman w/ Sniper Rifle; 6</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Guardsmen; Light Infantry, Sharpshooters, Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">110</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Infantry Platoon</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Command Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" colspan="2">Junior Officer w/ Bolter, Iron Discipline; 1 Guardsman w/ Lasgun, </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" x:str="Voxcaster; 1 Guardsman w/ Grenade Launcher; 2 Guardsmen " style="height: 12.75pt;">Voxcaster; 1 Guardsman w/ Grenade Launcher; 2 Guardsmen </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28">w/ Heavy Bolter; Light Infantry, Sharpshooters, Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">99</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Infantry Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Sergeant w/ Lasgun; 1 Guardsman w/ Lasgun, Voxcaster; 1</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Guardsman w/ Plasma Gun; 1 Guardsman w/ Sniper Rifle; 6</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Guardsmen; Light Infantry, Sharpshooters, Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">110</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Infantry Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Sergeant w/ Lasgun; 1 Guardsman w/ Lasgun, Voxcaster; 1</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Guardsman w/ Plasma Gun; 1 Guardsman w/ Sniper Rifle; 6</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Guardsmen; Light Infantry, Sharpshooters, Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">110</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl22">Fast Attack</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Sentinel Squadron Nightmare</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">3 Sentinels w/ Autocannons; Camo Netting, Smoke Launchers</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:fmla="=12+50*3" x:num="">162</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl29">Kroot Vulture Mercenaries</td> <td class="xl30"> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl30">Shaper w/ Auspex; 13 Kroot Vultures; Frag Grenades</td> <td class="xl30"> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl30"> </td> <td class="xl30"> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl30"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="" class="xl30">206</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl22">Heavy Support</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Leman Russ Tank "Grim"</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Heavy Bolter Sponsons, Lascannon, Pintle S. Bolter, Rough</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Terrain Mod., Extra Armour</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">185</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Leman Russ Tank "Black Knight"</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Heavy Bolter Sponsons, Lascannon, Pintle S. Bolter, Rough</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Terrain Mod., Extra Armour</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">185</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Basilisk "Dark Spear"</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28">w/ Earthshaker, Heavy Bolter; Indirect Fire, Camo Netting</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">125</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl24">Total</td> <td align="right" x:fmla="=SUM(B13:B103)" x:num="">2004</td> </tr> </tbody> </table>
   
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Excellently characterful list! If you want to trim a few points here and there, I would suggest dropping Sharpshooters from any squad with a sniper and plasmagun for the simple reason that those are the two weapons which specifically DON'T benefit from that doctrine.

I would look into replacing the Vultures with a squad of Rough Riders and a squad of Seraphim (allies are grand!). These both have a good deal of survivability and hitting power to add to your fragile foot troopers. You don't have a lot of heavy firepower, which could be worrisome...if you have six infantry squads to play with, including vets, I would suggest:

Lascannon/Meltagun x2, giving you a mean short range punch if you infiltraite and the ability to sit back and hug objectives.
Autocannon/Grenade Launcher x2, for busting up light transports and mid-range firepower.
3x Plasmagun 1x Sniper Veterans, simply because nothing beats x3 plasmaguns for marine killing.
3x Meltagun 1xMissile Launcher Veterans, for similar marine killing.

Then take Snipers in Special Squads, since they can forego the crack shot doctrine and fit into small bits of cover for that all important camelioline better. Vox Casters aren't worth it, period. I love them, they are characterful, I tried them in many games -- but Iron Discipline is way better and more cost effective. Dropping the Voxes and Master-Vox will save you lots of points.

I like the characterfulness of the list -- medallions crimson, a mortar squad, etc. But you can trade a few extra gobbits for some effectiveness without compromising it, I think.

What are Abhuman doctrines? This is the second or third time I've heard them referred to, but I see neither hide nor hair of them in any of my index Chapter Approved stuffs or old White Dwarfs...

-Adso
   
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NJ

ALL of your squads are entirely too expensive. Trim that fat off soldier!

To become more effective, you need to significantly change this army.

1) Break up your sentinels into 3 separate slots- 1 attached to HQ and 2 individual FA's.
2) Naked CHQ with JO, HI, Flag
3) Drop the Vox network entirely
4) LR's w/ 3 HB all around and extra armor
5) A general rethink of how you apply your Doctrines: Everyone doesn't need all of them... CHamo is about the only one I see you could/should apply to everyone.
6) As pointed out, SS Doctrine is used horribly. It is extremely effective in conjunction with HB support squads to reroll 9 shots. AC's maybe.
7) Put some heavy weapons in your line squads. 2 lascanons doesn't cut it. Putting them on your LR makes them even less effective because you can't shoot the BC and the HBs are wasted on something you're using the LC on. LCs for armor and ACs for light vehicles.
8) Sniper rifles aren't very effective vs. MEQ- If you're fighting alot of MEQ, drop them
9) Your vets are EXTREMELY expensive for what they can do. I'm a proponent of the DT Vet squad at 75 points.... Without DT, I might be able to accept a 3 PG/ LC Vet squad with a few ablative wounds... 8 men max.
10) PHQs are entirely too expensive- Give them ID and possibly flamers. Hide them, use their LD Bubble, then move them out when assaulters are in range of their flamers

@Adso- Abhumans were in US WD ?. I liked some of them but found having to use 2 Doctrines to be too much. For example, 1 Doctrine for Abhumans and a 2nd for one of the selections.
   
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Chicago

What are MEQs?

1-I don't see how effective breaking these up would be. In fact, in my experience, they've done fairly well as is. Tactics?
2-Agreed
3-Agreed
4-I like this idea. It will require a lot of work converting though, but nothing I can't handle..
5-I'm considering dropping the SS doctrine
9-DT=Drop Troops?
10-ID?
   
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Alexandria, VA

MEQ = Marine equavilant. 3+ save, marine like statline.
ID = Iron Discipline
DT= Drop Troops

1. If I had a devastator squad eqipped with 4 heavy weapons, and your sentinels were all in 1 squad, I could potentially destroy all of them in one round of shooting with 1 squad. However, if there were only 1 sentinel in each squad, the most damage I could cause in 1 shooting phase with my devastators would be the destruction of 1 sentinel. When broken up, losses are minimized and deployment becomes easier as you don't have to find an area large enough for all of them, different enemy units can be engaged, an immobile walker won't handicap the squad... The list goes on.. Sometimes it's hard to find enough cover to hide 3 sentinels.
   
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Florence, KY

Reread the rules for the Medallion Crimson. It is wasted points on your veteran sergeants.

Secondly, your veteran squads are illegal anyway.  They do not have the option to take a sniper rifle and the Light Infantry doctrine only works on "... a normal Infantry Platoon squad..." in regards to trading out a heavy weapon.


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Chicago

Ghaz: You're right about the MC. However, Vet Squads can take Light Infantry as it applies to Guard Infantry, which is clarified on p55, as including any Hardened Vets Squads.
   
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Chicago

Abhuman doctrines were in WD302. It included Feral Ogryns (Ogryns lacking Ripper Guns but Troops), Subs (like human Grots), Afriel Strain, Gland Vets, Slave Levies, etc. Like Flagg mentioned they're kinda crappy because you have to take the Restricted Troops: Abhumans doctrine and, if read correctly, another doctrine for the unit type.
   
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Wicked Warp Spider





Chicago

<table width="443" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" style="border-collapse: collapse; width: 332pt;" x:str=""> <col width="379" style="width: 284pt;"></col> <col width="64" style="width: 48pt;"></col> <tbody> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td width="443" height="21" style="height: 15.75pt; width: 332pt;" colspan="2" class="xl26">Callan 51st Rangers Imperial Guard Regiment "The Grim Reapers"</td> </tr> <tr height="20" style="height: 15pt;"> <td height="20" style="height: 15pt;" class="xl31">"Rangers Lead The Way"</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl25">Doctrines:</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Stormtroopers</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Iron Discipline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Rough Riders</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Light Infantry (Infiltrate, +1 dice for diff. terrain, snipers)</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Cameleoline (+1 cover save)</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl22">HQ</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl22"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Command Platoon</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Command Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Senior Officer w/ Storm Bolter, Bionics, Medallion Crimson,</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Iron Discipline; 2 Guardsmen w/ Plasma Guns; 1 Medic;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">1 Standard Bearer; Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:fmla="=55+20+12+10+10" x:num="">107</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Mortar Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">6 Guardsman; 3 Mortars; Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">90</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Sentinel Squadron Nightmare</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">2 Sentinels w/ Autocannons; Camo Netting, Smoke Launchers</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">108</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl22">Elites</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Veteran Squad I</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" x:str="Veteran Sgt. w/ Storm Bolter; 1 Vet w/ Sniper Rifle; " style="height: 12.75pt;">Veteran  Sgt. w/ Storm Bolter; 1 Vet w/ Sniper Rifle; </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28">3 Vets w/ Plasma Guns; Light Infantry, Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">100</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Stormtrooper Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28">1 Sgt.; 2 Troopers w/ Plasma Guns; 7 Troopers</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">120</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl22">Troops</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Infantry Platoon I</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Command Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Junior Officer w/ Laspistol, CCW, Iron Discipline; 2 Guardsmen </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">w/ Laspistol, CCW; 2 Guardsmen w/ Flamers; Light Infantry </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">, Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">77</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Infantry Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Sergeant w/ Lasgun; 1 Guardsman w/ Plasma Gun;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">1 Guardsman w/ Sniper Rifle; 7 Guardsmen; Light Infantry, </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">95</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Infantry Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Sergeant w/ Lasgun; 1 Guardsman w/ Plasma Gun;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">1 Guardsman w/ Sniper Rifle; 7 Guardsmen; Light Infantry, </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">95</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Infantry Platoon II</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Command Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Junior Officer w/ Laspistol, CCW, Iron Discipline; 2 Guardsmen </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">w/ Laspistol, CCW; 2 Guardsmen w/ Flamers; Light Infantry </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">, Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">77</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Infantry Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Sergeant w/ Lasgun; 1 Guardsman w/ Plasma Gun;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">2 Guardsman w/ Autocannon; 6 Guardsmen; Light Infantry, </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">100</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Infantry Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Sergeant w/ Lasgun; 1 Guardsman w/ Plasma Gun;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">2 Guardsman w/ Autocannon; 6 Guardsmen; Light Infantry, </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">100</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl22">Fast Attack</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Rough Rider Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28">Serg. w/ Shotgun, Hunting Lance; 2 Riders w/ Flamers;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">7 Riders w/ Laspistols, Hunting Lances</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">127</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl29">Kroot Vulture Mercenaries</td> <td class="xl30"> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl30">Shaper w/ Auspex; 9 Kroot Vultures; Frag Grenades</td> <td class="xl30"> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl30"> </td> <td class="xl30"> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl30"> </td> <td align="right" x:fmla="=13*10+21+2" x:num="" class="xl30">153</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl30"> </td> <td class="xl30"> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Hellhound "Cerebrus"</td> <td class="xl30"> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Extra Armour, Rough Terrain Mod., Pintle H. Stubber</td> <td class="xl30"> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="" class="xl28">137</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl22">Heavy Support</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Leman Russ Tank "Grim"</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Heavy Bolter Sponsons, Heavy Bolter, Pintle S. Bolter, Rough</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Terrain Mod., Extra Armour</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">175</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Leman Russ Tank "Black Knight"</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Heavy Bolter Sponsons, Heavy Bolter, Pintle S. Bolter, Rough</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Terrain Mod., Extra Armour</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">175</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Basilisk "Dark Spear"</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28">w/ Earthshaker, Heavy Bolter; Indirect Fire, Camo Netting</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">125</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl24">Total</td> <td align="right" x:fmla="=SUM(B13:B107)" x:num="">1961</td> </tr> </tbody> </table>
I'm wondering whether to take the Hellhound or a Demolisher. I can see the tactical applications of both but for some reason I lean more towards the HH.
   
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Lieutenant General





Florence, KY

Posted By ancientsociety on 01/01/2007 10:40 AM
Ghaz: You're right about the MC. However, Vet Squads can take Light Infantry as it applies to Guard Infantry, which is clarified on p55, as including any Hardened Vets Squads.

Reread the third bullet point of the doctrine again.  Just because any 'Guard Infantry unit' can take the Light Infantry doctrine doesn't mean that they get all of the benefits of that doctrine.  So once again, your list is illegal because the veterans can not be given sniper rifles.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Wicked Warp Spider





Chicago

Ghaz: You're right grasshopper. So sorry.
   
Made in us
Wicked Warp Spider





Chicago

<table width="434" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" style="border-collapse: collapse; width: 326pt;" x:str=""> <col width="370" style="width: 278pt;"></col> <col width="64" style="width: 48pt;"></col> <tbody> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td width="434" height="21" style="height: 15.75pt; width: 326pt;" colspan="2" class="xl26">Callan 51st Rangers Imperial Guard Regiment "The Grim Reapers"</td> </tr> <tr height="20" style="height: 15pt;"> <td height="20" style="height: 15pt;" class="xl31">"Rangers Lead The Way"</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl25">Doctrines:</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Stormtroopers</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Iron Discipline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Rough Riders</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Light Infantry (Infiltrate, +1 dice for diff. terrain, snipers)</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Cameleoline (+1 cover save)</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl22">HQ</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl22"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Command Platoon</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Command Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Senior Officer w/ Storm Bolter, Bionics, Medallion Crimson,</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Iron Discipline; 2 Guardsmen w/ Plasma Guns; 1 Medic;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">1 Standard Bearer; Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:fmla="=55+20+12+10+10" x:num="">107</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Mortar Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">6 Guardsman; 3 Mortars; Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">90</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Sentinel Squadron Nightmare</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">2 Sentinels w/ Autocannons; Camo Netting, Smoke Launchers</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">108</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl22">Elites</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Veteran Squad I</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" x:str="Veteran Sgt. w/ Storm Bolter; 2 Vets w/ Autocannon; " style="height: 12.75pt;">Veteran  Sgt. w/ Storm Bolter; 2 Vets w/ Autocannon; </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28">3 Vets w/ Plasma Guns; Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">103</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Stormtrooper Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28">1 Sgt.; 2 Troopers w/ Plasma Guns; 7 Troopers</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">120</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl22">Troops</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Infantry Platoon I</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Command Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" colspan="2">Junior Officer w/ Laspistol, CCW, Iron Discipline; 2 Guardsmen </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">w/ Laspistol, CCW; 2 Guardsmen w/ Flamers; Light Infantry </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">, Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">77</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Infantry Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Sergeant w/ Lasgun; 1 Guardsman w/ Plasma Gun;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">1 Guardsman w/ Sniper Rifle; 7 Guardsmen; Light Infantry, </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">95</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Infantry Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Sergeant w/ Lasgun; 1 Guardsman w/ Plasma Gun;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">1 Guardsman w/ Sniper Rifle; 7 Guardsmen; Light Infantry, </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">95</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Infantry Platoon II</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Command Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" colspan="2">Junior Officer w/ Laspistol, CCW, Iron Discipline; 2 Guardsmen </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">w/ Laspistol, CCW; 2 Guardsmen w/ Flamers; Light Infantry </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">, Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">77</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Infantry Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Sergeant w/ Lasgun; 1 Guardsman w/ Plasma Gun;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">2 Guardsman w/ Autocannon; 6 Guardsmen; Light Infantry, </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">100</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Infantry Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Sergeant w/ Lasgun; 1 Guardsman w/ Plasma Gun;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">2 Guardsman w/ Autocannon; 6 Guardsmen; Light Infantry, </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">100</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl22">Fast Attack</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Rough Rider Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28">Serg. w/ Shotgun, Hunting Lance; 2 Riders w/ Flamers;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">7 Riders w/ Laspistols, Hunting Lances</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">127</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl29">Kroot Vulture Mercenaries</td> <td class="xl30"> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl30">Shaper w/ Auspex; 11 Kroot Vultures; Frag Grenades</td> <td class="xl30"> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl30"> </td> <td class="xl30"> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl30"> </td> <td align="right" x:fmla="=13*12+21+2" x:num="" class="xl30">179</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl30"> </td> <td class="xl30"> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Hellhound "Cerebrus"</td> <td class="xl30"> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Extra Armour, Rough Terrain Mod., Pintle H. Stubber</td> <td class="xl30"> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="" class="xl28">137</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl22">Heavy Support</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Leman Russ Tank "Grim"</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Heavy Bolter Sponsons, Heavy Bolter, Pintle S. Bolter, Rough</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Terrain Mod., Extra Armour</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">175</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Leman Russ Tank "Black Knight"</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Heavy Bolter Sponsons, Heavy Bolter, Pintle S. Bolter, Rough</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Terrain Mod., Extra Armour</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">175</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Basilisk "Dark Spear"</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28">w/ Earthshaker, Heavy Bolter; Indirect Fire, Camo Netting</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">125</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl24">Total</td> <td align="right" x:fmla="=SUM(B13:B107)" x:num="">1990</td> </tr> </tbody> </table>
   
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Florence, KY

Posted By ancientsociety on 01/02/2007 8:57 AM
Ghaz: You're right grasshopper. So sorry.

No problem, but now unfortunately your Rough Riders are illegal.  Hunting lances are an upgrade for the squadron much like grenades are.  You give them to everyone in the squadron or to no one.  Since the entire squadron now has hunting lances, you no longer have "... two troopers, without hunting lances..." to give the flamers to.  You will either have to drop the flamers or the lances.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Wicked Warp Spider





Chicago

Damn! Is it just me or is the IG codex full of RAW pitfalls like this?

Should I take out the flamers or the lances???
   
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NJ

Keep the lances/ Drop the flamers

I think you are sorely lacking heavy weapons in this list.
   
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Long Beach, CA

There are a ton of problems with this list. As someone said you troops are way too expensive. You do not even have over 100 troops, which is not good in a 2000-point list for IG.

Why give them the ability to infiltrate? You want to AVOID getting too close to the enemy. I can see where you are going with the chameleon cloaks, for a total of +1 cover saves. I don?t know why you are going out of your way to protect crappy troops. It would be better just to get more troops. Get some conscripts or something.

Also you seem to be obsessed with having sniper rifles in your army. I don?t know why. You?ll often fight MEQ and they have good leadership, and good armor saves so ONE sniper rifle per squad is not going to do much. IF you want snipers I would recommend a unit of ratlings. 10 shots with those guys can take out fex's and daemons princes (I?ve done it before) where as 6 or so sniper rifles in 6 different units is a waste, now everyone else has to shoot at the same target.

Also mortars are a waste, they are only S4 and don?t even punch through MEQ armor. You would be better off with a squad of 3 HB for the same price, now you get 9 STR 5 shots that wont scatter into nowhere. I have never used them, just looking at mortar stat lines is enough to tell me they suck, I?ve played against other IG players that use them and they never do much of anything. Not to mention why are you giving your mortars chameleon they are supposed to be hidden anyways so they should not be getting shot at.

For the sentinels I would go with the multilaser, it still wounds on a 2 but you will get 6 shots instead of 4. Yes the ap is lower but the way I look at it is if it does not break MEQ armor, then screw the save and go with number of shots. I have said a few times in here that autocannons are the worst buy in the game. You can run the numbers yourself they are too expensive not enough shots, ap is not that good, etc.... With the exception of fighting speed freaks autocannons are horrible.

I would ditch the stormtroopers and get another unit of vets, you'll need the veterans doctrine but vets are just far superior I think. It seems like your tactic is to infiltrate your army then blast away first turn, what if you don?t go first? Then you are S.O.L. The best way most people use vets if to take drop troops and drop in with either 3 plasma, or 3 melta depending how you want to use them.

Pintle storm bolters on your tanks is just asking for trouble now you are open topped. I would not do that if I were you IG vehicles are already too easy to take out as it is, unlike other armies we do not get any special abilities with vehicles unless you are playing armored company.

Hellhound is good, not storm bolter though.

It seems like the only thing even remotely good in CC in this army are your rough riders and even then you are throwing away a hunting lance for a shot gun on you SGT? Why? The flamers can be ok but also keep in mind that Hunting lances are two handed wpns so you cannot give them las pistols AND hunting lances I learned that the hard way when I was playing Darrian13. Even then the hunting lances are only good in first round of combat after that the RR are just crappy troops on horses.

IF you play this list one of two things will happen.

I assume you want to infiltrate you troops, so...

Opponent goes first, sends their fast units up to you then you are in hand to hand, unable to do much about anything you get annihilated.

You go first, then kill maybe 10 (if your lucky) models of his because he will probably be playing MEQ like everyone else, and you don?t have enough shots esp enough AP3 shots. Then they move forward and kill you on their turn.

You need more shots, more troops, ditch infiltrate, forget chameleon cloak, no pintle weapons, no autocannons, (HB or missile launcher are much better) not enough anti tank in this list, more hand to hand troops, rough riders, or SOMTHING, if your going to go shooty then go EXTREME shooty.

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Why give them the ability to infiltrate? You want to AVOID getting too close to the enemy.


I think the reason that he wants to infiltrate (correct me if I'm wrong) is so that he wait to deploy his troops where ever he wants after his opponent has set up his entire army (aside from infiltrator if he has any) so that he can get the best firing lanes possible.

Pintle storm bolters on your tanks is just asking for trouble now you are open topped.


I also don't know where your getting this from I don't see it in the codex.......

Even then the hunting lances are only good in first round of combat


thats the point of having rough riders in your army at all because if they didn't have the lances then they would just be guardsmen and that's not what you want. they're supposed to ride up blast the unit they're charging to hell, and if that doesn't do it the rest of your army can shoot it to death to finish the job.
   
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Chicago

Smart Alex: As StrangeBrew mentioned, I want infiltrate to utilize later setup and getting good fire zones.

No Pintle Mounted weapon (in any codex) makes your vehicle count as open-topped (read the desc. - it even says fired by remote from INSIDE the vehicle). The only times an IG vehicle is opnetopped is when transported troops utilize a Chimera's top hatch to fire from.

It seems you want me to utilize a swarm army - lots of cheap expendable troops, etc. While I can see the benefits of it, swarm armies always scream cheese to me (both in 40K and elsewhere) and I think IG are good enough to field w/o having to resort to cheese.

I'm not sure why you think the ML is better than an AC. It's only stronger if firing Krak and even then it gets only 1 STR higher but has 1 shot lower than an AC (if I remember correctly - don';t have a codex @ work). I can see the benefit of a HB, but it is also weaker than an AC.

Also not sure why you think Vets are better than Stormtroopers. Personally I think they're equally good. While Vets can take 3 Special Wpns and a HW and Infiltrate, Stormtroopers can take 2 Specials, have hellguns, have a better armor save, and can both Infiltrate and Deep Strike.

I agree with dropping the mortar squad. I'll likely take a Fire Support squad instead.

The RR will all get hunting lances.

Thinking of changing out the HH for a Demolisher for its heavier firepower.
   
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Long Beach, CA

gotcha

"Do NOT ask me if you can fire the squad you forgot to shoot once we are in the assault phase, EVER!!!"

 
   
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Wicked Warp Spider





Chicago

Trimmed this down by removing the Kroot Mercs - while fluffy and lovable, I don't see a bright future for their rules...

<table width="434" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" style="border-collapse: collapse; width: 326pt;" x:str=""> <col width="370" style="width: 278pt;"></col> <col width="64" style="width: 48pt;"></col> <tbody> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td width="434" height="21" style="height: 15.75pt; width: 326pt;" colspan="2" class="xl26">Callan 51st Rangers Imperial Guard Regiment "The Grim Reapers"</td> </tr> <tr height="20" style="height: 15pt;"> <td height="20" style="height: 15pt;" class="xl30">"Rangers Lead The Way"</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl25">Doctrines:</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Stormtroopers</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Iron Discipline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Rough Riders</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Light Infantry (Infiltrate, +1 dice for diff. terrain, snipers)</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Cameleoline (+1 cover save)</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl22">HQ</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl22"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Command Platoon</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Command Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Senior Officer w/ Power Sword, Laspistol, Bionics, Medallion </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28">Crimson, Iron Discipline; 2 Guardsmen w/ Meltaguns; 1 </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Medic; 1 Standard Bearer; 1 Commisar; Cameleoline, Frag</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Grenades</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:fmla="=55+25+20+22+10+5+40+6" x:num="">183</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Fire Support Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">6 Guardsman; 3 Heavy Bolters; Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">90</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Sentinel Squadron Nightmare</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">2 Sentinels w/ Autocannons; Camo Netting, Smoke Launchers</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">108</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl22">Elites</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Veteran Squad I</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" x:str="Veteran Sgt. w/ Bolter; 2 Vets w/ Autocannon; 3 Vets w/ " style="height: 12.75pt;">Veteran  Sgt. w/ Bolter; 2 Vets w/ Autocannon; 3 Vets w/ </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28">Plasma Guns; 4 Vets w/ Lasguns; Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27"> </td> <td align="right" x:fmla="=103+24" x:num="">127</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Stormtrooper Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28">1 Sgt.; 2 Troopers w/ Plasma Guns; 7 Troopers</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">120</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl22">Troops</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Infantry Platoon I</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Command Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" colspan="2">Junior Officer w/ Laspistol, CCW, Iron Discipline; 2 Guardsmen </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">w/ Laspistol, CCW; 2 Guardsmen w/ Flamers; Light Infantry </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">, Cameleoline, Frag Grenades</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">82</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Infantry Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Sergeant w/ Lasgun; 1 Guardsman w/ Plasma Gun;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">1 Guardsman w/ Sniper Rifle; 7 Guardsmen; Light Infantry, </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">95</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Infantry Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Sergeant w/ Lasgun; 1 Guardsman w/ Plasma Gun;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">1 Guardsman w/ Sniper Rifle; 7 Guardsmen; Light Infantry, </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">95</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Infantry Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Sergeant w/ Lasgun; 1 Guardsman w/ Plasma Gun;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">1 Guardsman w/ Sniper Rifle; 7 Guardsmen; Light Infantry, </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">95</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Infantry Platoon II</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Command Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" colspan="2">Junior Officer w/ Laspistol, CCW, Iron Discipline; 2 Guardsmen </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">w/ Laspistol, CCW; 2 Guardsmen w/ Flamers; Light Infantry </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">, Cameleoline, Frag Grenades</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">82</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Infantry Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Sergeant w/ Lasgun; 1 Guardsman w/ Plasma Gun;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">2 Guardsman w/ Autocannon; 6 Guardsmen; Light Infantry, </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">100</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Infantry Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Sergeant w/ Lasgun; 1 Guardsman w/ Plasma Gun;</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">2 Guardsman w/ Autocannon; 6 Guardsmen; Light Infantry, </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Cameleoline</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">100</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl22">Fast Attack</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Rough Rider Squad</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28">Serg. & 9 Riders w/ Laspistols & Hunting Lances</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">110</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl29"> </td> <td class="xl29"> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Hellhound "Cerebrus"</td> <td class="xl29"> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Extra Armour, Rough Terrain Mod., Pintle H. Stubber</td> <td class="xl29"> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="" class="xl28">137</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;"> <td height="21" style="height: 15.75pt;" class="xl22">Heavy Support</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Leman Russ Tank "Grim"</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Heavy Bolter Sponsons, Heavy Bolter, Pintle S. Bolter, Rough</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Terrain Mod., Extra Armour</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">175</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Leman Russ Tank "Black Knight"</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;">Heavy Bolter Sponsons, Heavy Bolter, Pintle S. Bolter, Rough</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl27">Terrain Mod., Extra Armour</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">175</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl23">Basilisk "Dark Spear"</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl28">w/ Earthshaker, Heavy Bolter; Indirect Fire, Camo Netting</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td align="right" x:num="">125</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;" class="xl24">Total</td> <td align="right" x:fmla="=SUM(B13:B107)" x:num="">1999</td> </tr> </tbody> </table>
My one qualm is still the Hellhound. I'm really not very sure if it's a tactially feasible model...
   
 
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