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Yeah, I mean I really loved the "miniatures designed by X" texts in the old WD mags whenever a new metal blister pack was out. Also, all the artwork displayed credited the illustrators with either name or via a sigil, which had a legend on the first page of any publication. Been a long time since I've seen anything like that on GW products. Hell, to this day, I dont know who to give credit for resculpting my favourite RT-era models (MKVI armour, Indomitus Terminators, Land Raider Proteus) in the HH range..
Ashiraya wrote: That is true as well. If you are a pure 40k player I'd definitely approach this with caution. The Kratos rug pull was just cruel.
Awe, poor tourney players....
My Kratos plays just fine using it's Legends sheet.
So while I agree the 40k community really should embrace their PDFs like the 30k community has, the reality is it unfortunately hasn't, and not everyone has the chance of finding a legends-friendly gaming group near them. That is why I call it cruel - for a great many 40k players, "legends" is a banlist in disguise.
Coming in a bit late on the new Heresy releases. I really like the new Custodes models - especially the Caladius / Coronus. I won't be doing a Custodes army, but if I did I'd be maxing out on these; I think they are some of the best looking vehicles in Heresy. The whole female Custodes thing is absurd; even if it's a change to the lore, it's just one of many ret-cons we've had over the years, and I welcome it. The female heads also add some more variety to the usual lantern-jawed male heads - although I'd probably ultimately use the plumed helms. I bet we see some amazing Custodes armies - especially once the rest of the range comes out.
The newest Heresy tanks are a bit of a non-event, however. The Glaive is cool, in an ugly kind of way, but the Whirlwind is something that probably should be a lot further down the release list. And 2 variants on existing chassis is hardly 'tanks galore'...
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So while I agree the 40k community really should embrace their PDFs like the 30k community has, the reality is it unfortunately hasn't, and not everyone has the chance of finding a legends-friendly gaming group near them. That is why I call it cruel - for a great many 40k players, "legends" is a banlist in disguise.
There is also the fact, that I do not trust the Legends support to continue. I will not buy a hundred euro tank, rules of which might be gone in the next edition.
Yep that's a huge thing with Legends - its not a block of rules that gets updated its a safeguard for one maybe two editions if you're lucky.
And with how GW wholesale changes the core fundamentals of the rules every 3 years that's a real risk that you can end up with a model that you have to create your own rules for entirely.
3K Kind of got a bit of a wider acceptance I think in part because it was fairly old-school in that it came out with a LOT of units in the book which still don't have models. So proxies/countsas were almost par for the course to get anything on the table for some factions.
40K is very mainstream in GW which means if its not got a model, it doesn't have rules anywhere and if there are rules without a model its only short term.
If GW changed how they did their rules to a more long term approach with smaller adjustments then a Legends document would not only last longer, but be more likely to get updates. When the rules wholesale change and GW already has to update every single army in one go; the Legends are easily forgotten/abandoned.
I wonder how the new HH custodes heads will look next to marine heads. If they aren't that much larger, GW is finally giving us female Astartes compatible heads
Still, I feel like its a weird RetCon. It's as if GW is trying to backtrack from the "Emperor was gay, and only loved men" stance they've maintained until now..
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: That’s a pretty common thing in terms of art creation. If made under contract (as in, you’re an employee not a freelancer) then anything you produce during working hours belongs to the company, not the individual.
And I’d imagine you just need a similar clause with any Freelancer, even if you’re buying an existing piece they’ve made. Latter might affect the price of course. But it’s a perfectly legitimate thing to have in the agreed bill of sale and that.
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I'm into quite a lot of other video games, fantasy/sci-fi material, RPGs, comics, other games within the wargaming industry.
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I cannot think of a single other example of a company that purposefully excludes the names of its creatives from its published material. GW themselves did not do so until fairly recently in the company's history.
I am not going to accept them normalising it, because it is not normal, and its quite disappointing that so many are seemingly happy for it to continue; it is disrespectful to the artists, authors and game designers who are creating material for them.
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Conceptually I don't disagree with you, not giving direct credit is weird.
However it doesn't come from a 'scrw the artists' place AFAIK. From memory there was a *lot* of blowback a bit over a decade ago based on some codex's, including a fairly large amount of specific death threats against some of the authors involved. And, to my knowledge, this was why they removed specific names; to basically protect their authors / artists from being singled out by angry and obsessive fans. This isn't a bad reason, tbh.
That it also shields some of the incredibly shoddy work which GW allows through, while also not allowing authors to be praised or develop a (positive) following is, admittedly, probably also a benefit to them.
Hey, can we take this whole credit thing to a thread of its own, as it is something that yes, should be discussed, but not here, nor anywhere else it is constantly brought up in various other topics, thanks.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Even more coolerer on that one?
For us weirdos with impractically large collections? It’s a second source of the new sponsons.
Ashiraya wrote:We've had Laser Destroyer sponsons since 1e, I am very glad we finally have a source of them (a better source than cannibalising rapiers, anyway).
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Also on that line of thinking? Big and genuine thanks to whoever it was at GW that ensure, without any conversion whatsoever? When you buy a Fellblade, and presumably but yet to be properly confirmed Glaive?\
You can build two out of three sponson options. If like me you’ve two or more Spartans, the choice is of course easy.
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