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Looks off to a nice start, I like the muted palette. It rteally fits the ratskins. I still have a gang of the classic models as well, and I love them

Glad you have put in the effort good start nice natural earthy colours works well still think some kind of face paint would work ………...

Looking really nice so far

Thanks guys! Are Juves allowed to wear war paint? Or do they need to become full gangers before they are allowed? They don't wear ratskin hats until they are full gangers?

Looking good man!

HAZZER

Only minimal markings for juves Gangers get more and bolder markings

hey, cool work there man.... i think it is unfair now to sell your work cheap by yourself now! they do look lovley! i really like that these juves have all black heads... i always get a sour face when seeing blonde heros...^^

the scheme looks rather excellent to me... knowing next to nothing about them fluffwise i yet feel that this is how they should look like! also good work on all that tiny detail, if that is what good brushes are capable of doing with us so called mediocre painters... than i better rush off to get me some quality brushes^^

cheers mate...

It's all in the tip of the brush Vik, Sable brushes just tend to keep that point for longer than regular squirrel hair, and a helluva lot longer than synthetic bristles, It helps if you are psychotic about keeping your brushes really clean too!

I I always rinse them with cool, clean water (never hot- it can loosen the glue that holds the ferrule onto the handle) and then use brush soap, scrub with thumb and forefinger followed by another rinse, and then the age old habit of reforming the tip with my lips. Then they should always be stored either upright or lying flat.

The cheaper natural and synthetic brushes have many uses, like drybrushing, you never want to use your good sable brush for drybrushing!

And if you are going to use oil paints for weathering, you MUST MUST MUST have seperate Natural bristle brushes for oils, Never ever ever ever ever use synthetic brushes or the same brush for oils and acrylics- This is BAD...like crossing the streams BAD.

OH, and BTW...NEVER lick your oil paint brush either

This is BAD...like crossing the streams BAD.

that made me giggle^^

totally with you on the whole issue there... i think i have to order in the nearer future some good brushes as i am totally unable to get them in a RL shop somewhere remotly near me...berlin seems to be an artles place concerning that artform...

by the way, do you happen to know what the main differnce is between brush soap and normal soap? not that i want to use the regualr soap for my brushes, was just interested... the lip methode of reshaping the point of the brush... even with a bit of spit is known to me and for the ones i hold dear i use it...

er... and oilpaint is hazardous to health? never knew that....

Well, I don't know if it will kill you, but it tastes like crap!

Are you in former East Berlin or what Vik? I would imagine the capital city would have more available stuff!

well as it happens i live in the east part of town...went shopping two weeks ago in the western part of town intoan artshop...but when it comes to brushes it was not what i had hoped for...but to not be on the unthankful side...they had foamcore there... so when iu start new terrainprojects i now know where to go^^

You should buy that stuff ahead of time, it sucks to run out mid-project. Is the East part of Berlin more run-down from all the Soviet years?

well it is now after over 20 years pretty good recovered, i guess it is just not a very arty town after all... remeber after the 1940´s we burned lots of artists and writers works... maybe the are not back...:( but in all fairness it is not really transparent where to get what... sometimes it is rather try and error... and as i now begin to follow the hobby with more earnest, so i have to gather more knowledge of what to get where...

and yep... materials are to be on stock before planning^^ (horders advice from a fellow horder^^)

Looking good here, Dave. I really like the musket. I hope to learn to paint this good someday. I have started putting my Chaos troops together, though, so it won't be long before we find out whether or not I can paint at all.

Thanks dood! I get a little bit better on each mini, unless I am painting my Catachan Blobs, then I just don't give a crap after awhile, 5 green pants, 10 black boots, etc, etc, repeat, die of boredom

The most useful things I have learned about painting, were usually caused by my own stubborness in the first place, I refused to listen to these advices from many sources:

1. thin your paints
2. use multiple thin coats instead of one thick coat
3. keep your brushes clean
4. allow washes and inks to dry completely before even looking at the next thing

And was always dissapointed with my stuff because of it.
I am still working on my following stubbornesses:

1. mix your colors in the 1:2:1 type ratios (I hate mixing colors)
2. blend colors wet (scary, I am afraid it will turn to mud)
3. resist the urge to drybrush textured areas (it's hard, because drybrushing gives instant gratification, but like milk, spoils easily)

It is all a learning experience, be patient with yourself, practice, and keep your mistakes out where you can see them so you learn from your mistakes. That's about the best advice I can give you.

I learned to paint minis over 10 years ago from reading Dr. Faust http://www.paintingclinic.com/

Juves' looking good!

Your truck talk yesterday got me to thinking of an Ork Battle Wagon I started almost 2 years ago!


(my cutting mat has 1 inch squares to help with scale in case you wanted to know)

I never got past the chassis stage, but your diagram of the trucks reminded me about it. I kind of wanted to go for a snub-nosed Mack Truck look, but I was just not sure how to do it.

If I ever get my Guard Army off the ground, I gess I could use this chassis for a heavy truck too. Who knows!

Amigo, that is totally bad ass!! Perfect!

Today, I ordered some of Zinge's new wheels today, I was looking at the M65 Atomic cannon's prime movers wheels, and they are just way too big for the truck, but I could easily see those wheels working well! Are those from a Tonka truck?

Thanks, Dave, I will read DR. Faust and keep all that advice real handy. Built the Chaos battleforce and a Land raider yesterday so I gotta get on the paint soon.

Gonna order from Zinge myself. Loving the cable bundles, vents and grills and Fans. Loving it.

@ Dave - Thay ARE from a Tonka truck! They are called Tread Shifters. And are awesome! I can just never find them in the stores anymore.


The outer tires are removable, and there is a smaller diameter tire under it!

1. mix your colors in the 1:2:1 type ratios (I hate mixing colors)
2. blend colors wet (scary, I am afraid it will turn to mud)
3. resist the urge to drybrush textured areas (it's hard, because drybrushing gives instant gratification, but like milk, spoils easily)

my fears exactly!


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at jake... i can get those at our 1€ shop... they are quite cheap fortheir convertive potential

El Vic, nice! They are usually in the $2.75 range here. When I can find them. Also, for Orks, I think just one of the basic trucks right out of the box, with some conversion of course, would be great for a Buggy, or Scorcha, or something like that!

Oh Yeah! The black chassis looks like it seperates from the yellow body nicely, very cool, I'll check the dollar stores sometime this weekend.

...rolls chair back over to painting bench....

hehe... don´t forgett the update pics...you wouldna forget about them in a hurry of speedpainting frenzy, now do ya?

Boy you guys have been busy took me ages to catch up on this thread I go to work and all hell breaks loose, with you on the painting techniques but it does pay and after a while you get use to doing the same thing over and over again so becomes second nature and the results pay of.

I have bought some acrylic slow drying medium to try out for blending saw a technique on the internet using this and it seemed to work well and helped with the flow of paint so fingers crossed with that, however I think I need to invest in some decent new brushes.

I have used oils before but the waiting time drove me nuts (patience is a virtue)

Now more pictures please

Would never forget pics Vik.

did you do those bases by yourself? if so good work and consider that idea nicked! rivets on base...either i do rivets on new minis or cobblestones...

as for the minis... the skin actually looks quite good... for me still the toughy on top! will you add a bit of drybrushing to the hair? later on then a dark wash? to break it up a bit? or maybe aw forgett that... those are juves and they need a bit of a youngster hairdo^^

Yes I riveted Juves! lol
I just used scrap bits of plasticard and added a few rivets. They aren't done yet Vik.

well this is a good idea... you could next time turn those riveted bitz and make it look like beams...but i really like that idea!

Thanks man!

I Think I will call these Juves done for now. I may add warpaint later, when I do gangers, we shall see. So for now, check it out.

well, these are looking cool, and the red hints on the base gives the minis a bit of color against the muted tones on the bodies... the three of them somehow remind me of the last mohawk...that movie... they have quite an indian feel to them...just realized that the guy on the far right has a crossbow^^ would have been nice to get him a tube and a fuse like some fireworks...

well i call it a night for tonight...

wish you a good start in the new year...even if it turns out to be all our last^^
cheers, vik