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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter






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Are you honestly saying that Vikings beat a musket in close quarters? Becuase that musket ball is going straight through your round viking shield, through your dingy viking helmet and into you thick viking skull.

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Emperors Faithful wrote:Are you honestly saying that Vikings beat a musket in close quarters? Becuase that musket ball is going straight through your round viking shield, through your dingy viking helmet and into you thick viking skull.



And then what? I hope those pirates can reload like modern guns my friend. Because that one viking might fall, but his incredibly pissed off brothers in arms will rip the pirate to shreds. Also your muskets are WILDLY inaccurate

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KingCracker wrote:
Emperors Faithful wrote:Are you honestly saying that Vikings beat a musket in close quarters? Becuase that musket ball is going straight through your round viking shield, through your dingy viking helmet and into you thick viking skull.



And then what? I hope those pirates can reload like modern guns my friend. Because that one viking might fall, but his incredibly pissed off brothers in arms will rip the pirate to shreds. Also your muskets are WILDLY inaccurate


So they have more friends..... GOOD! That means we can fire in any direction, they won't get away this time!

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HA! Thats funny. You guys will loose any advantage firing your guns. Because once those are gone, in close quarters youll be screwed. Now Im not saying that pirates CANT fight, but they are used to drunken brawls. A Viking on the other hand, is used to brutal hand to hand combat. The weak are killed off early on. Your stuck with the most brutal warriors left.

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KingCracker wrote:HA! Thats funny. You guys will loose any advantage firing your guns. Because once those are gone, in close quarters youll be screwed. Now Im not saying that pirates CANT fight, but they are used to drunken brawls. A Viking on the other hand, is used to brutal hand to hand combat. The weak are killed off early on. Your stuck with the most brutal warriors left.

Enjoy the ride


But Vikings are also honorable fighters, They don't strike below the belt, both figuratively and literally. Pirates have no such "honor"

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Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.

Depends. Vikings from Gotland where more interested in trading with you then fighting you. Hell they even became mercenaries.

However Norwegian Vikings were responsible for GRUESOME sackings of Ireland, England and France they were simply out for blood.

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Slarg232 wrote:
KingCracker wrote:
Emperors Faithful wrote:Are you honestly saying that Vikings beat a musket in close quarters? Becuase that musket ball is going straight through your round viking shield, through your dingy viking helmet and into you thick viking skull.



And then what? I hope those pirates can reload like modern guns my friend. Because that one viking might fall, but his incredibly pissed off brothers in arms will rip the pirate to shreds. Also your muskets are WILDLY inaccurate


So they have more friends..... GOOD! That means we can fire in any direction, they won't get away this time!


Chesty Puller would kick both of their asses.

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KingCracker wrote:
Emperors Faithful wrote:Are you honestly saying that Vikings beat a musket in close quarters? Becuase that musket ball is going straight through your round viking shield, through your dingy viking helmet and into you thick viking skull.



And then what? I hope those pirates can reload like modern guns my friend. Because that one viking might fall, but his incredibly pissed off brothers in arms will rip the pirate to shreds. Also your muskets are WILDLY inaccurate


1) If your vikings are standing far away enough to allow for innacuracy then the pirates will probably have to time reload before you close the gap.

2) By the time you've closed the gap the innacuracy of the musket won't matter.

KingCracker wrote:HA! Thats funny. You guys will loose any advantage firing your guns. Because once those are gone, in close quarters youll be screwed. Now Im not saying that pirates CANT fight, but they are used to drunken brawls. A Viking on the other hand, is used to brutal hand to hand combat. The weak are killed off early on. Your stuck with the most brutal warriors left.

Enjoy the ride


Oh really? Becuase in the history books it reads something like this... "Vikings plundered, pillaged and raped many defenceless villages in England...But when they actually went toe to toe with regular army fellows they got cut down quick-smart."

Whereas pirates were always on their toes regarding the British fething Navy.

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That's because the books mostly fail to mention there was a time before people had proper armies that's when the Viking raids lost their momentum.

This story is what is considered the "last" viking.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/317633.page

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Shadowbrand wrote:That's because the books mostly fail to mention there was a time before people had proper armies that's when the Viking raids lost their momentum.

This story is what is considered the "last" viking.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/317633.page


So let me get this this straight. The last Viking...lost. To a right propa Saxon Army.

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Kamloops, BC

Emperors Faithful wrote:
KingCracker wrote:
Emperors Faithful wrote:Are you honestly saying that Vikings beat a musket in close quarters? Becuase that musket ball is going straight through your round viking shield, through your dingy viking helmet and into you thick viking skull.



And then what? I hope those pirates can reload like modern guns my friend. Because that one viking might fall, but his incredibly pissed off brothers in arms will rip the pirate to shreds. Also your muskets are WILDLY inaccurate


1) If your vikings are standing far away enough to allow for innacuracy then the pirates will probably have to time reload before you close the gap.

2) By the time you've closed the gap the innacuracy of the musket won't matter.

KingCracker wrote:HA! Thats funny. You guys will loose any advantage firing your guns. Because once those are gone, in close quarters youll be screwed. Now Im not saying that pirates CANT fight, but they are used to drunken brawls. A Viking on the other hand, is used to brutal hand to hand combat. The weak are killed off early on. Your stuck with the most brutal warriors left.

Enjoy the ride


Oh really? Becuase in the history books it reads something like this... "Vikings plundered, pillaged and raped many defenceless villages in England...But when they actually went toe to toe with regular army fellows they got cut down quick-smart."

Whereas pirates were always on their toes regarding the British fething Navy.


Actually untrue there were several armies that tried to stop the vikings but almost all failed, Charlemagne (a Frenchie oddly enough) was one of the few who could compete with the vikings. In fact the viking raids were so common and

horrible kings would actually pay the vikings not to attack there country.
   
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Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.

Yes. But then a french man destroyed the Saxons.

Curious isn't it?

But for the record Harada was pretty Badass.

This also was after CENTURIES of attacking the Island and the European mainland.

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KingCracker wrote:Its tied. Sorry Pirate whores, but Vikings would crush you any day of the week.


And yapping on about a pirate bay being protected by cannons and the like is silly. No viking ship would land RIGHT NEXT TO THE VILLAGE! They would make land fall miles away and just pop out from no where if they had to. Seriously, this is a debate? DOUBLE SPEARS DAMMIT!


Of course. And the reason the British and Spanish didn't do that is because they were all such horribly stupid clods with total gak for brains, and not at all because pirates (and everyone else) chose locations for their bases that made such incredibly obvious tactic ineffective...
   
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Kamloops, BC

Shadowbrand wrote:Yes. But then a french man destroyed the Saxons.

Curious isn't it?

But for the record Harada was pretty Badass.

This also was after CENTURIES of attacking the Island and the European mainland.


Yeah there was a time when being French meant you were a bad ass but that time has long passed. To be fair Charlemagne was like the Genghis Khan of France.
   
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Cheesecat wrote:

Actually untrue there were several armies that tried to stop the vikings but almost all failed, Charlemagne (a Frenchie oddly enough) was one of the few who could compete with the vikings. In fact the viking raids were so common and

horrible kings would actually pay the vikings not to attack there country.


Interestingly, Viking Raids are considered one of the main factors that encouraged Kings of those times to incorporate proffessional armies, rather than rely on levvies.

Smacks wrote:
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KingCracker wrote:I agree. Vikings were the masters of rapid strikes. They could literally wipe an entire village out in one night and no surrounding villages would have ANY clue what happened to them. Cmon. Im failing to see the argument


Oh my god, a small army of well armed and armored men could slaughter an entire village of defenseless farmers in a sneak attack? Clearly these guys are masters of war! Because obviosly no other fighting force in history could stand against the might of an entire village of peasants!
   
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Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.

And pirates are no fething better?

You are BAD at arguing!

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Pirates had guns.

Pirates win.

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Emperors Faithful wrote:
Cheesecat wrote:

Actually untrue there were several armies that tried to stop the vikings but almost all failed, Charlemagne (a Frenchie oddly enough) was one of the few who could compete with the vikings. In fact the viking raids were so common and

horrible kings would actually pay the vikings not to attack there country.


Interestingly, Viking Raids are considered one of the main factors that encouraged Kings of those times to incorporate proffessional armies, rather than rely on levies.


And unfortunately those soldiers were of little help, so there money would have been better spent ass kissing the vikings instead, which happened anyway.

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Gailbraithe wrote:
KingCracker wrote:I agree. Vikings were the masters of rapid strikes. They could literally wipe an entire village out in one night and no surrounding villages would have ANY clue what happened to them. Cmon. Im failing to see the argument


Oh my god, a small army of well armed and armored men could slaughter an entire village of defenseless farmers in a sneak attack? Clearly these guys are masters of war! Because obviosly no other fighting force in history could stand against the might of an entire village of peasants!


Hey man, ask the English, Peasants are scary.

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Pirate > Knight[1]
Knight > Samurai[2]
Samurai > Viking[1]

Ergo: Pirate > Viking

[1] Source: Deadliest Warrior, the most scientific appraisal of warriors and their deadliestness currently available to researchers.
[2] Source: Common sense, the knight has better armor and the samurai lacks the equipment and training to combat it. No it doesn't matter that samurai were actually used as horse archers, all that matters is that their portrayal is internally consistent, geez.

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Shadowbrand wrote:And pirates are no fething better?

You are BAD at arguing!


Actually Pirates preyed on Merchant ships and had to stave of 2nd and 3rd Class Ships of the line that were tasked with hunting them down. Messy business, and considerably more dangerous than sacking a village.

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Guys, join me and Shadowbrand in the collaborative effort to create a gruesome and terrifying new Viking/Pirate hybrid.

We shall call them Pirakings.

The lands of ice and snow and the seven seas will sing praise to the Pirakings! Who will rule the planet with the combined force of guns, hot women, and epicly manly beards!

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Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.

There is nothing more dangerous then taking on a army let alone 2, sure the Vikings lost, but I'd fething love to see a pirate do that.

No discussion there.

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Shadowbrand wrote:There is nothing more dangerous then taking on a army let alone 2, sure the Vikings lost, but I'd fething love to see a pirate do that.

No discussion there.


Which army? Most were actually unsuccessful at retaliating Viking raids.
   
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Darth Bob wrote:Guys, join me and Shadowbrand in the collaborative effort to create a gruesome and terrifying new Viking/Pirate hybrid.

We shall call them Pirakings.

The lands of ice and snow and the seven seas will sing praise to the Pirakings! Who will rule the planet with the combined force of guns, hot women, and epicly manly beards!


Not going to lie, Piraking sounds like a Pokemon of the Pirasect/Pirasite evolution.

>.>
<.<

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Cheesecat wrote:
Shadowbrand wrote:There is nothing more dangerous then taking on a army let alone 2, sure the Vikings lost, but I'd fething love to see a pirate do that.

No discussion there.


Which army? Most were actually unsuccessful at retaliating Viking raids.


Becuase they didn't have galleons. Pirates do.

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@Cheesecat The Saxon and Normans at Hastings.

And their were Galleon sized boats before they just had balistas instead of cannons.

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