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Comic version or movie version?

Reaver83 wrote:wow i really like this thread, it offers some interesting thoughts on historical accuracy vs freedom of choice.

So just to get some more opinions, a couple of friends and myself are doing an infantry aces campaign. I pitch up to play my friends germans - who's leading the - the Red Skull...

That sounds cool. Is there a miniature available or is it a custom job?

appears to be a head swap with i guess a 20mm skellie head

Well, as the dust settles I think we can all agree that everyone acted with civility and composure throughout this thread... Everyone involved has certainly covered themselves in glory

No I would not play late war American vs late war Russian, but again we have the culture thing, people do not just turn up with random armies to a club setting, things are far more organised and planed in the club environment. And when I say planned I'm not just talking about the game itself for that night, I'm talking about people sitting down and planning what to buy for a particular period in co-operation with other members of the group, so this wouldn't happen. The group would decide on the period to be played and people would buy the appropriate army's for it.

Maybe that's why 40k is easier to play - no one cares if its nids vs necrons but for WW2 americans vs french is a no-no!

A more accurate statement would be "Maybe thats why 40k is more suited to the FLGS/Pick up game enviroment"

I wouldn't say its easier to play, I haven't witnessed many games of 40k that didn't end in an argument.

Phototoxin wrote:

No I would not play late war American vs late war Russian, but again we have the culture thing, people do not just turn up with random armies to a club setting, things are far more organised and planed in the club environment. And when I say planned I'm not just talking about the game itself for that night, I'm talking about people sitting down and planning what to buy for a particular period in co-operation with other members of the group, so this wouldn't happen. The group would decide on the period to be played and people would buy the appropriate army's for it.

Maybe that's why 40k is easier to play - no one cares if its nids vs necrons but for WW2 americans vs french is a no-no!

I can think of plenty of justifications for why the French and the Americans might have a pop at each other. It doesn't take much imagination to think of a perfectly valid reason why two forces might be engaged.

Aldramelech wrote:A more accurate statement would be "Maybe thats why 40k is more suited to the FLGS/Pick up game enviroment"

I wouldn't say its easier to play, I haven't witnessed many games of 40k that didn't end in an argument.

This to be fair. When i used to play with particular players it was a potential nightmare. One of the reasons i stopped playing so much.

Phototoxin wrote:Maybe that's why 40k is easier to play - no one cares if its nids vs necrons but for WW2 americans vs french is a no-no!

Nothing wrong with Blue on Blue battles in FoW. In fact just yesterday my British 6th Airborne chaps cut to pieces 2 different US 3rd Armored forces and the actually founght Jerry when the Flemish SS took the field. Some people don't like playing any games except the opposing side, but that just isn't possible in a league setting. No one is going to sit out an entire league day just because no forces of one side or the other didn't show up. Remember one Sunday afternoon in our EW league where people showed up staggered to the point where we had Polish on Polish, French on French, German on German and British on British games all going simultaneously. Just happened to fall that way. For me not wanting to play a LW British or American armored list against LW Russian armor would be based more on the fact that the western front tanks were VERY outclassed by the eastern front tanks. It just isn't a lot of fun where pretty much every game your shots just continue to bounce off the enemy while your own tanks are popping all over the place. That is why I tend to play British Airborne in Late War, because dug in infantry and guns can get the job done nicely against heavy tanks.

It can sometimes be easier to arrange 40k games if you regularly deal with really anal historicals folks, but then you can get the same problem sometimes too when only Space Marine or IG players show up and someone gets the well space marines and IG are on the same side going.

Simple fact is as long as the players are amenable to playing a game it will be easy enough to have a reason for certain forces to face each other. IMNSHO just wanting to play a game is good enough for me.

Skriker

ArbeitsSchu wrote:

I can think of plenty of justifications for why the French and the Americans might have a pop at each other. It doesn't take much imagination to think of a perfectly valid reason why two forces might be engaged.

Maybe they didn't like it when the nameFrench Fries got replaced with 'Freedom Fries' -shrugs-

FabricatorGeneralMike wrote:

ArbeitsSchu wrote:

I can think of plenty of justifications for why the French and the Americans might have a pop at each other. It doesn't take much imagination to think of a perfectly valid reason why two forces might be engaged.

Maybe they didn't like it when the nameFrench Fries got replaced with 'Freedom Fries' -shrugs-

Or somebody wanted to buy a hamburger...

FabricatorGeneralMike wrote:

ArbeitsSchu wrote:

I can think of plenty of justifications for why the French and the Americans might have a pop at each other. It doesn't take much imagination to think of a perfectly valid reason why two forces might be engaged.

Maybe they didn't like it when the nameFrench Fries got replaced with 'Freedom Fries' -shrugs-

Or that whole "leaving the French premier in tears whilst his country gets slaughtered by Jerry" thing. I think that would piss me off.

All of my guns, vehicles and tanks are following the same pattern being painted dark grey (late war). So I'd say go for it. Make your own colored tanks and all