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 whembly wrote:

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:

 Monster Rain wrote:
Then why point to Bonnie and Clyde, sebster?

I think because, while they were psychopaths in real life, they would later become romanticized, almost folk heroes.

I think, IIRC about the only criminal in the US to really, and truly be romanticized and hailed as a hero by many, was John Dillinger (ya know, the famous bank robber who robbed from the bank's vault, not the customers in the bank, and who escaped many prisons previously thought to be unescapable)

Don't forget Jesse James.

That was because there was a dedicated writer making money telling stories about them.

Back in the 70s, there was an episode of the Brady Bunch dedicated to little Bobby's infatuation with BtK.

 Frazzled wrote:
I don't think we romanticize these guys like we used to do in the 30s though.

That's true, there's much greater awareness of what bankrobbers and mafia types are really like, leaving much less scope for romanticisation. But that doesn't mean it can't happen, especially with a guy like Dorner, who's killing spree is quite different from the norm, and maybe liable to be romanticised if the right* people get hold of it.


*Or wrong people... you know what I mean.


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 Monster Rain wrote:
As a rebuttal to the idea that people that are currently supporting Dorner are scum? I don't get it.

The question at hand wasn't on people currently supporting Dorner. To recap;

Easy E asked;
"Do we have the makings of a modern day "depression era" folk hero in this story?"

Fraz replied, pointing out the guy called and taunted the families of the victims.

I replied to that, pointing out that Bonnie & Clyde were murderous imbeciles, who in time and with imaginative re-writes were turned into folk heroes.





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 Ahtman wrote:
I don't think that was the point at all. He was referencing a tendency among people to romanticize an incident, or individuals. If anything it is an indictment of the people wanting to make this into something it isn't, not a defense of their turning a blind eye to the realities, or that confuse a film for history.

Absolutely.


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 Monster Rain wrote:
Perhaps I misintrepreted the intent of the statement.

If so, my bad.

Not a problem. I think there were two different conversations running through the thread, one on people who are cheering on Dorner, and another on whether he might one day be a folk hero. I was commenting on the former, and saying 'donkey-caves have been made heroes in the past, so there's a chance it'll happen again.'

I think this might also explain why your original question to me might have seemed very different to how you intended it. If so, my apologies for my curt response.


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 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
I think, IIRC about the only criminal in the US to really, and truly be romanticized and hailed as a hero by many, was John Dillinger (ya know, the famous bank robber who robbed from the bank's vault, not the customers in the bank, and who escaped many prisons previously thought to be unescapable)

You should watch the 60s movie of Bonnie & Clyde, because it is the culmination of a lot of efforts to turn those two into heroes (and it's also a pretty good movie, in that 'ignore the history' Braveheart kind of way).

And whembly's call of Jesse James is a really good one. There's also Billy the Kid. In Australia we do the same thing with Ned Kelly.

Police confirmed the burned body was Dorner.

 Breotan wrote:
Back in the 70s, there was an episode of the Brady Bunch dedicated to little Bobby's infatuation with BtK.

If you had written BTK, I would have thought you were talking about the BTK killer... and then I remembered the Brady bunch ended before BTK really got going.