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I don't see how a President exercising the authority granted to him by law can be mocked for stating that the US is a nation built on the rule of law. At least absent the "feth Obama!" refrain that article is clearly grounded in.

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Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!

uh huh...

This was last night boyo:


“Don’t just start yelling, young ladies,” Obama said as multiple women stood up to demand that Obama stop deporting people.

“I let you holler,” he said as they continued shouting. “You’ve got to listen to me too.”

Obama said that the protesters were right about a lot of illegal immigrants getting deported but that he was acting to change it.

“What you’re not paying attention to is the fact that I just took an action to change the law,” Obama said.

So... yeah...

Mr. Constitutional Professor Obama thinks he changed the law... which is something EOs and executive actions cannot legally do.

He’s not exactly being discreet about it, either.

#DemocraticPrivilege

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 whembly wrote:

Mr. Constitutional Professor Obama thinks he changed the law... which is something EOs and executive actions cannot legally do.


I'm willing to give Obama the benefit of the doubt by assuming he simply misspoke, as people speaking off the cuff in front of large crowds are wont to do.

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 dogma wrote:
 whembly wrote:

Mr. Constitutional Professor Obama thinks he changed the law... which is something EOs and executive actions cannot legally do.


I'm willing to give Obama the benefit of the doubt by assuming he simply misspoke, as people speaking off the cuff in front of large crowds are wont to do.


Dogma, giving someone the benefit of a doubt?!!!? Truly my dimemsion shift experiment has worked!
   
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Relapse wrote:

Dogma, giving someone the benefit of a doubt?!!!? Truly my dimemsion shift experiment has worked!


I almost always give public figures the benefit of the doubt.

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 dogma wrote:
Relapse wrote:

Dogma, giving someone the benefit of a doubt?!!!? Truly my dimemsion shift experiment has worked!


I almost always give public figures the benefit of the doubt.

But not Joe Schmoe?

Huh... maybe he should be king in your eyes.

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South Wales

I can easily read it to say that he took action to help change a law.

I can also easily read it to say he thinks he can change the law.

Depends on my bias and whether I'm on his side or against him, I guess.

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 MrDwhitey wrote:
I can easily read it to say that he took action to help change a law.

Which he cannot do.

I can also easily read it to say he thinks he can change the law.

He can think it all he wants, but still not the purview of his Office. As a Constitutional Scholar should know.

Depends on my bias and whether I'm on his side or against him, I guess.

I'm just enjoying the schadenfreude.

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 whembly wrote:

But not Joe Schmoe?


I never said or implied that, please stop putting words in my mouth.

 whembly wrote:

Huh... maybe he should be king in your eyes.


I didn't say or imply that either. I have merely spoken against public behavior which I consider to be a problem.

 whembly wrote:

I'm just enjoying the schadenfreude.


Which is a problem, as it points to the notion that you are more interested good gloating than good governance.

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 dogma wrote:

 whembly wrote:

I'm just enjoying the schadenfreude.


Which is a problem, as it points to the notion that you are more interested good gloating than good governance.

So... when there's "bad governance" I should shut up?

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South Wales

That is not what he said.

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Prestor Jon wrote:
Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
 
   
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 MrDwhitey wrote:
That is not what he said.

I know...

I apathetic now with the Obama and the Democrats (even the Republicans to a certain extent).

*shrug*

Face it... Obama goofed... and I'll point it out.

Nothing that I'll say/do will make the likes of Obama do anything different.

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 whembly wrote:

So... when there's "bad governance" I should shut up?


I neither said nor implied that you should "shut up" when "bad governance" occurs. I said that you seem more interested in "good gloating" than "good governance" due to the fact that you stated you are "...enjoying the schadenfreude." and have long held yourself to be vitriolically opposed to Democrats.

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 dogma wrote:
 whembly wrote:

So... when there's "bad governance" I should shut up?


I neither said nor implied that you should "shut up" when "bad governance" occurs. I said that you seem more interested in "good gloating" than "good governance" due to the fact that you stated you are "...enjoying the schadenfreude." and have long held yourself to be vitriolically opposed to Democrats.

Well... I can have my cake... and EAT it too!

I vote. So I had "my say" at the voting booth.

I call/email my politicians... they can at least "listen" to what I have to say.

I'm only performing my civic duty.

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 whembly wrote:

I call/email my politicians... they can at least "listen" to what I have to say.


That doesn't jive with your claim to apathy. Based on your statements you seem to hate Democrats (especially Obama) while also being frustrated by Republicans and the complications of American politics.

 whembly wrote:

I'm only performing my civic duty.


I was unaware that your "civic duty" involved putting words in people's mouths.

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 dogma wrote:
 whembly wrote:

I call/email my politicians... they can at least "listen" to what I have to say.


That doesn't jive with your claim to apathy. Based on your statements you seem to hate Democrats (especially Obama) while also being frustrated by Republicans and the complications of American politics.

True... I'm complicated.

 whembly wrote:

I'm only performing my civic duty.


I was unaware that your "civic duty" involved putting words in people's mouths.

I was also unaware that you strive to nitpick everything. You seem to take abject pleasure in pulling the minute thread and try to discredit the opposing viewpoints.

Neat trick dude...

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 whembly wrote:
I was also unaware that you strive to nitpick everything.

Really? He's been doing this stuff for years now. How did you miss it?


 
   
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 whembly wrote:

I was also unaware that you strive to nitpick everything. You seem to take abject pleasure in pulling the minute thread and try to discredit the opposing viewpoints.


I merely try to point out when people are wrong about issues that interest me, while simultaneously objecting to having my statements deliberately mischaracterized.

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Probably work

 dogma wrote:
I merely try to point out when people are wrong about issues that interest me, while simultaneously objecting to having my statements deliberately mischaracterized.


That seems to ascribe malice. Should you notice it happen often, perhaps you should try to determine if could better elucidate what you're trying to say.

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 daedalus wrote:

That seems to ascribe malice.


If you read up-thread there are several clear mischaracterizations of my statements. They may have been (among other things) malicious, defensive, or ignorant; I can't speak with authority on the matter.

 daedalus wrote:

Should you notice it happen often, perhaps you should try to determine if could better elucidate what you're trying to say.


I assure you that I have.

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Probably work

Fair enough then.

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This is interesting and bears looking into to see how true this report is:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/27/businesses-to-receive-incentive-to-hire-illegal-immigrants-report-says//politics/2014/11/26/businesses-to-receive-incentive-to-hire-illegal-immigrants-report-says/
   
 
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