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SGTPozy wrote:


What could it be other than an IoM bias?

It could be a lot of things - first and foremost it is probably just opinions will differ.

I'd suggest maybe taking a different track or giving this topic a rest.

SGTPozy wrote:


Both of you explain what's so wrong with my postas I can't see it.

Why is it that when Tau finally got a good codex after two terrible ones they were hated on yet now that DA have one it's fine?

What could it be other than an IoM bias?

Try reading more than the title before you respond to a thread. If you just go a few posts back you will see what is wrong with your reply.

Your assumption is wrong. "now that DA have one it's fine."

1) First of all, there is screaming about the rerollable 2+
2) Compared to the rest of the OP releases (SM, Eldar, Necron and to some extent Skitarii even though that is only if it is allied with other codexes) the DA one is very tame. So if we assume that this is the new state of the game, DA have not gotten an OP codex. They've gotten one that isn't absolute trash. It's only compared to pre-Necron that this codex is considerably better.
3) Even if there was no complaining as you say (which there is) and even if the codex was OP (which it isn't) the fact is that people are all huffed out. Screaming about Eldar, Necron, SM and Ad Mech has made everyone understandably weary about the whole complaining trend.
4) and fourth, you came in and posted the EXACT SAME POST that we had JUST A FEW POSTS EARLIER been talking about how xenos players keep regurgitating the same erroneous opinion based on selective reading.

"Why is it that when Tau finally got a good codex after two terrible ones they were hated on yet now that DA have one it's fine? "

DA can't blow my entire list apart from across the board. All the while ignoring cover.

The 4th ed Tau codex was not bad, either.

what in the SM 'dex is OP? free rhinos if you take 6 tac squads?

BrianDavion wrote:
what in the SM 'dex is OP? free rhinos if you take 6 tac squads?

Did you read the codex or use it as blunt paper?

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/652411.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/652014.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/30/653580.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/652092.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/652449.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/652161.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/651937.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/650824.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/652681.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/652523.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/649628.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/629061.page
(Last two are rumours threads so may take a bit of reading).

Plenty of posts in these threads that state something (or everything) in an imperial army is OP. I didn't go back far enough to check out any for mechanicus (except a rumour thread) or Skittari but I assure you that they are there. There are also many other recent threads with this in. This is just a selection.
Anyway, since there are many of you unable to find any raging/declarations of OP/complaining about any Imperial armies, I thought I'd do you all a favour, find it for you, and put it right under your nose :-). Happy reading guys!

A) Hasn't been playtested
B) requires the use of a Ravenwing Darkshroud, which is AV10 and the cost of 16 MBs

 TedNugent wrote:
A) Hasn't been playtested
B) requires the use of a Ravenwing Darkshroud, which is AV10 and the cost of 16 MBs

i've been playtesting it, and the darkshroud is well worth the points! regardless of what he does to the bikes, his 3 landspeeder buddies also get 2+ rerollable jink

10 black knights, a librarian, and the support squadron is brutal as feth. sure, people could tailor a list to hurt it, but so far there's not been many lists that wouldn't get smashed by it.
I even played a nurgle daemon list that has no ranged weaponry. 2+ rerollable was useless. I'll tell you what wasn't...... overwatch!

20 plasma, 2 bolter, 3 heavy bolter, 12 assault cannon, and 6 krak missile shots. bikes hitting on 5s, speeders hitting on 3s (with a demi company)

i've never seen anything like it on overwatch. now there is no reason to stay out of talon rapid fire range. everything has 2+ rerollable jink and the most horrendous amount of overwatch if you get charged


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Also,

Has anyone else noticed that, unlike our vanilla counterparts, we can actually fit 2 separate lions blade detachments in a 2000pt army?

Meaning that we can take 20(!) free transports in a 2000pt game.

Thats 1100pts worth of razorbacks FOR FREE!