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 Ravenous D wrote:

Martel732 wrote:
Being named Ravenous D is a good start, evidently.

You got problems buddy.

Sup guy? Is that a fething space elf in your avatar picture?

 Ravenous D wrote:

Martel732 wrote:
Being named Ravenous D is a good start, evidently.

You got problems buddy.

Dang, shots fired! While Dboy was always rather annoying, ravenousD usually has logical advice. May not always present it in the best way, but it's usually accurate.

Pain4Pleasure wrote:

 Ravenous D wrote:

Martel732 wrote:
Being named Ravenous D is a good start, evidently.

You got problems buddy.

Dang, shots fired! While Dboy was always rather annoying, ravenousD usually has logical advice. May not always present it in the best way, but it's usually accurate.

Martel's just pissed because I told him off the other day and he ran to the mods after Ive spent the last year telling him how to fix his junk ass blood angels but he refuses to even attempt anything outside his exceptionally small and closed minded box of options. You cant help people that wont step out of their comfort zone.

He thinks that he cant take libby conclave with his blood angels because its vanilla and therefore allies, something he refuses to take. Its impossible to convince him that 1) You can win with blood angels if you use your brain and 2) eldar can be beaten.

I gave up trying to help but he keeps doing that thing with his face where he opens the dump valve and spews his verbal diarrhea all over the forum. Apparently he took it personally and has started posting about me in other threads. Its cute that I have a hate groupie now.

Ravenous D wrote:He thinks that he cant take libby conclave with his blood angels because its vanilla and therefore allies, something he refuses to take. Its impossible to convince him that 1) You can win with blood angels if you use your brain and 2) eldar can be beaten.

I gave up trying to help but he keeps doing that thing with his face where he opens the dump valve and spews his verbal diarrhea all over the forum. Apparently he took it personally and has started posting about me in other threads. Its cute that I have a hate groupie now.

If your answer to Martel is "Use a different codex" or "change your list," then the problem isn't with Martel. The problem is with the game and the people who intentionally break it.

Traditio wrote:

Ravenous D wrote:He thinks that he cant take libby conclave with his blood angels because its vanilla and therefore allies, something he refuses to take. Its impossible to convince him that 1) You can win with blood angels if you use your brain and 2) eldar can be beaten.

I gave up trying to help but he keeps doing that thing with his face where he opens the dump valve and spews his verbal diarrhea all over the forum. Apparently he took it personally and has started posting about me in other threads. Its cute that I have a hate groupie now.

If your answer to Martel is "Use a different codex" or "change your list," then the problem isn't with Martel. The problem is with the game and the people who intentionally break it.

Aaaaand here we go with the it's not me its you speech. No. As I stated before you are wrong. If you have old models and refuse to update to anything new and then complain that you can't win at all, YOURE TFG

Pain4Pleasure wrote:Aaaaand here we go with the it's not me its you speech. No. As I stated before you are wrong. If you have old models and refuse to update to anything new and then complain that you can't win at all, YOURE TFG

Whatever you say, guy.

Traditio wrote:

Pain4Pleasure wrote:Aaaaand here we go with the it's not me its you speech. No. As I stated before you are wrong. If you have old models and refuse to update to anything new and then complain that you can't win at all, YOURE TFG

Whatever you say, guy.

Now you're starting to get it

Pain4Pleasure wrote:

Traditio wrote:

Ravenous D wrote:He thinks that he cant take libby conclave with his blood angels because its vanilla and therefore allies, something he refuses to take. Its impossible to convince him that 1) You can win with blood angels if you use your brain and 2) eldar can be beaten.

I gave up trying to help but he keeps doing that thing with his face where he opens the dump valve and spews his verbal diarrhea all over the forum. Apparently he took it personally and has started posting about me in other threads. Its cute that I have a hate groupie now.

If your answer to Martel is "Use a different codex" or "change your list," then the problem isn't with Martel. The problem is with the game and the people who intentionally break it.

Aaaaand here we go with the it's not me its you speech. No. As I stated before you are wrong. If you have old models and refuse to update to anything new and then complain that you can't win at all, YOURE TFG

Never to my opponent of course. Everyone I play with knows anyway. Of course, there's nothing for BA to update to or I'd consider it.

Martel732 wrote:Never to my opponent of course. Everyone I play with knows anyway. Of course, there's nothing for BA to update to or I'd consider it.

Nerf bat, I say. Embrace the nerfs.

Nerf tau.

Nerf eldar.

Nerf tau.

Nerf IG.

Nerf everyone who isn't Space Marines.

...

...

And even among space marines...

NERF WHITE SCARS AND DARK ANGELS!

Traditio wrote:

Martel732 wrote:Never to my opponent of course. Everyone I play with knows anyway. Of course, there's nothing for BA to update to or I'd consider it.

Nerf bat, I say. Embrace the nerfs.

Nerf tau.

Nerf eldar.

Nerf tau.

Nerf IG.

Nerf everyone who isn't Space Marines.

...

...

And even among space marines...

NERF WHITE SCARS AND DARK ANGELS!

So your answer is to nerf armies to the ground, creating a new top that hopefully has your army in it? And you say you ARENT a TFG? Now I'm laughing...

And yet, the nerf bat's not coming out. In fact, the reverse is happening with the new space marine book.

Pain4Pleasure wrote:So your answer is to nerf armies to the ground, creating a new top that hopefully has your army in it? And you say you ARENT a TFG? Now I'm laughing...

Nerf until strict proportional equality has been effected. If my 15 point missile launcher isn't proportionately equal to whatever heretical 15 ppm upgrade you are using, then MOAR NERFS!

Traditio wrote:

Pain4Pleasure wrote:So your answer is to nerf armies to the ground, creating a new top that hopefully has your army in it? And you say you ARENT a TFG? Now I'm laughing...

Nerf until strict proportional equality has been effected. If my 15 point missile launcher isn't proportionately equal to whatever heretical 15 ppm upgrade you are using, then MOAR NERFS!

That's asinine, a terrible idea. I say if you enjoy playing at the power level of your selected army then by all means enjoy the frick out of it. If you want something more powerful.... Well you know where to look

Pain4Pleasure wrote:That's asinine, a terrible idea. I say if you enjoy playing at the power level of your selected army then by all means enjoy the frick out of it. If you want something more powerful.... Well you know where to look

There shouldn't be a "more powerful." Period.

I think people would be happy if their codex were as dynamic and internally balanced as the Eldar. This means, of course, that everyone gets D-weapons.

Martel732 wrote:
I think people would be happy if their codex were as dynamic and internally balanced as the Eldar. This means, of course, that everyone gets D-weapons.

No

No.

No.

No.

No. No. No. No. No. No No. No. No. No. No. No.No. No. No. No. No. No.No. No. No. No. No. No.No. No. No. No. No. No.

Just to be clear.

Did I mention...

"No"?

Yes. For the path GW has set, it's the only way to make things fair.

Martel732 wrote:
Yes. For the path GW has set, it's the only way to make things fair.

I have a better idea: ABOLISH THE D!

Too late for that. You can't put the genie back in the bottle. Besides, you need something that GMCs respect.

Martel732 wrote:
Too late for that. You can't put the genie back in the bottle. Besides, you need something that GMCs respect.

ABOLISH GMCS!

They've already cast the models and put them on the shelves.

Martel732 wrote:
They've already cast the models and put them on the shelves.

Keep the models. Rewrite their rules.

It's not happening. They haven't handed out nerfs since 3rd ed, and they are counting on never-ending escalation to keep selling things. The primary mystery is why they leave half the armies in the gutter.

Martel732 wrote:
It's not happening. They haven't handed out nerfs since 3rd ed, and they are counting on never-ending escalation to keep selling things. The primary mystery is why they leave half the armies in the gutter.

Move them north!

Are you... Are you guys simply posting nonsense? I see no valuable information from either one of you in the past few posts..

Pain4Pleasure wrote:
Are you... Are you guys simply posting nonsense? I see no valuable information from either one of you in the past few posts..

That's the way an Eldar goes.

So... the actual discussion appears to be done here.