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 FrozenDwarf wrote:
 aphyon wrote:
Well

I guess were in AT 43 territory, get the mini's while you can. before it gets stupid expensive and hard to find.

Wonder what game Paolo will come up with next.

I just hope my last order went through




As far as i know the only option now is Konflict 47 but that is Warlord Games and their rep aint exactly good(very overpriced models and weak rules set for whatever they make) plus i think even that game is dead, i see no product for it at sale anywhere, so i dont think there is any wierd world war II games out there anymore.


Remember Clockwork Goblin makes K-47 minis, and they have a nice surprise --- they are putting everything into 15mm to allow play in Flames of '47, that is Flames of war with K-47 minis.

You can peruse what they have on their site:
https://www.clockworkgoblinminis.co.uk/

The flames of '47 rule set group can be found on Facebook.

The other option is really only Warlord's 28mm version, unless you want to grab some of the more obscure systems...

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All the more obscure systems at this point are basically dead/unsupported

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womp.

Spent yesterday scouring the web to try to get some Blitz/Adler/Moskito/Falke for Axis and non-TSH KV-47s (Natalya/Natasha/Nadya) and airborne KV-47s (Nastasia/Nikita/Nina) for SSU.

Managed to find a bunch on the dark recesses of the web, but every order I placed ended up getting cancelled either because they were no longer in stock or they were an international seller that doesn't/won't ship to the US, and then there were a bunch of orders I couldn't place because the stores were no longer accepting online orders for various reasons. Very frustrating.

I did eventually manage to get 1 Adler/Blitz kit (cost an arm and a leg) and 1 Moskito/Falke kit (reasonable price but international shipping is a killer) which weren't cancelled (yet). I also managed to get my hands on a pair of the original Axis walkers (Luther/Ludwig/Lothar) for posterity.

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grats, yes the hamstering has begun for real, miniature marked is vacumed for anything but allied powersuits and 6 legged walkers, and some german troop stuff.

My first package arrived today: axis jagd walker with all 3 wep options, kit merc hq squad and ijn gembu/basan. a week to payday, so im hoping i can find the rest then if it has not been vacumed by others,

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I still intend to buy one more of each the punisher 1 and punisher 2 six-leg walker kits, and I'd like to get a set of Jagd walkers and Wotan II ARs, but right now I'm more focused on trying to track down some of those SSU goodies.

All else fails maybe I'll buy the TSH walkers and see if I can figure out how to design a 3d printable cockpit enclosure for them.

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chaos0xomega wrote:
I still intend to buy one more of each the punisher 1 and punisher 2 six-leg walker kits, and I'd like to get a set of Jagd walkers and Wotan II ARs, but right now I'm more focused on trying to track down some of those SSU goodies.

All else fails maybe I'll buy the TSH walkers and see if I can figure out how to design a 3d printable cockpit enclosure for them.


mm, anything that aint spetznas is very hard to find and basicly ebay only.
I saw some tactics kv152s listed for 130-150$ in ebay this summer. The kv47 is ebay only and red guard was not even listed in any of the 3 sites, so they prolly never was made after tactics ended.

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Well, looks like I did manage to score 1 airborne walker with transport 'copter on BGG after all. Would have preferred a second one but it is what it is.

Edit - also managed to score a trio of KV47s (non-spetsnaz) from Singapore on BGG. Woot! Only 1 each but I'll take it.

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Nice, i am glad i have all 4 of the axis planes i wanted(X2 blitz, addler, flake/moskito, although i would not mind having a geist). the only one i have seen in any number now is the glide bomb one(hexe) that comes with the fallshirmjager starter box. some of the others have shown up here and there on ebay and such.

The only thing i am really after for a friend is the totenmeisterin character, but we may have to go 3rd party in the end for that one.


Otherwise our group is sitting pretty good. i snagged the desert scorpions boxed set like i said to get the characters, i am giving the command squad to our new allies player and i just recently scored a command prinzluther transport, NDAK command squad(noble knight) and the combined konigs wotan/lothar II kit (all the way from Poland via ebay) for our other axis player.

Some stuff is really easy to find like the USMC/spetznaz units but like what happened with AT43 some of the better units are hard to find, or super expensive noble knight has the standard lothar primed but they want way to much for it.


Looks like the DUST war journals site is gone, if anybody needs them i have the free PDF downloads they had up for most of the axis/allies and SSU cards & main rule book if anybody needs them.





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Yea, aircraft situation is bugging me. i can currently find a block allies plane for less then retail price, but bloc axis and ssu; impossible outside of ebay..... it is allmoust as if they where not made at all after tactis ended..

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I suspect that Paolo didn't have access to the molds for the items made under previous iterations of the game, or if he did they were the IP of FFG or Battlefront or whoever the previous publisher was and they wouldn't release the rights to him to use them. Its not a solid theory but its the only thing that makes sense to me to explain why he would have otherwise had access to the production tooling for a very large range of models that he seemingly never reprinted and instead chose to focus on investing a large amount of resources into the development of new sculpts/variants of those things instead (variants which were often styled differently from their predecessors).

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Not really certain that is the case-they recently re-released the allied pelican fighter (p-38) with full options including the tornado variant with phasers. that is most likely why they are more available.

As for the axis planes the last few were all the hexe and geist versions with the radar antenna on the nose, the only new one for SSU was the helicopter (mi-472) with the tesla cannons- it still appears to be in stock on the DUSTUSA store.



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can't speak for the pelican, but the sculpt for the hexe/geist are entirely different from the adler/blitz, byt the design for both are sinilar enough that you won't notice the minor differences that give it away (aside from the difference in cockpit design). Same is true for the SSU helicopters, overall they look very similar if you compare the FFG version to the most recent incarnations but theres a few minor stylistic differences in the sculpts - in the Invader for example, the Dust Tactics FFG sculpt the cockpit has big chunky rivet heads, whereas the Dust Studios sculpt they are smaller and fewer in number

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hehe, i have to giggle at the model hoarding going on now.
Prior to the bad news, the italian site was allmoust untoutched, now it is vacumed of ijn ninja models, only the 777 and inflitration squad remains.

Suspect that shop will have a pretty good clean over the coming weeks as it has currently some stuff none of the other two sites has.

Have to live on nudles and bread for a week, but i managed to pick up one of the very few remaining ijn ninja sniper teams, plus a ssu steelguard army box in kit. I allready have a steelguard hq and support squad, so i sould make a nice little force backed up by some block tanks or mercenaries units.

They allso have very recently got Addie in stock as resin kit for thouse who missed the premium version on the homepage.


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Recent checks of noble knight and ebay have seen a boost in available units seen, several pelicans show up as well as some FFG multi kit boxes.


plus a ssu steelguard army box in kit. I allready have a steelguard hq and support squad, so i sould make a nice little force backed up by some block tanks or mercenaries units.


My entire SSU force at 150 is themed around the steel guards horde. the only unit i do not run is the sniper team. aside from the artillery tractors/spotter teams it is steel guards and 7 of the combat engineer walkers(miniature market had a great deal on them last year). having an army that is 95% damage resilient tends to annoy people.



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Forgot about the scalpers...........

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I mean, I'm doing a lot of hoovering, I would wager I constitute a large chunk of it on my own considering that I started October with 29pts of IJN and 26 pts of Luftwaffe, and currently have about 452 pts of IJN, 638 pts of Luftwaffe/Axis, plus 485 points of Allies, and 625 pts of SSU... and this isn't even my final form.

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Question is, would you have done it if the company had not shut down?
Someone wrote, 100p in dust is about 1500p in 40k...


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Eventually, yes. Collecting Dust was on my to-do list (I bought those starters for a reason), however my inability to convince friends to give it a go (they thought it was a dead game, they may have been right) pushed it to the bottom of the priority list, and the lack of availability for half the product range for the last 2 years had me waiting until things came back into availability to bother. The announcement through that calculus out the window and its become a scramble to try to grab as much of this stuff as I can while I can - I fully expect the game to relaunch in the future with new masters once again, but since it seems like a segment of the product range gets left behind through each different iteration of the game who the hell knows if any of this will be purchasable in the future.


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OK. Think I'm done for now.

All I have left on my hit list is stuff with plenty of inventory floating around.... although I need to be honest and say that my tendency towards trying to build realistic squads/platoons, etc. has me itching to take all the pairs of mechs I've purchased and turn them into trios or quads, but I have to draw a line somewhere.

Only thing I'll be buying in the interrim is a bunch of IJN Ninja kits the moment that Dust USAs shipment clears the port of seattle and gets put up for preorder.

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mmm, i dont think anything from 1947 would be left out if the game sees a new official day, but the tactics stuff, that was not "inhouse" so prolly why half the range never returned.
Spetznas, Blut and USMC was around during tactics and featured in the book as the examples for each block, so im guessing they was not BF/FFG and that is prolly why thouse 3 have a lot of models floating around.

Block models is prolly still in the hands of BF/FFG and prolly the reason to why they was not reproduced or featured in the rulebook.

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Got another run with the MYTHOS force tonight.


I was defending in the "doomsday weapon" scenario. i really stretched it out since i had the chance to turn it on turn 3 but went all the way to 5 before it went off, if it had gone a one more turn i would have lost.

The table was pretty thick with area terrain so the minions of the elder gods got to play a bit.


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hmm suddenly I want to collect a bunch of Mythos stuff... too bad most of it seems to be sold out everywhere

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ok, homebrew rules time.

Been toying with rules for an idea of a IJN fighter plane. I used axis Adler as reference but tryed to make it a bit weaker and a bit stronger. First time im making rules and no, this aint playtested in any ways.

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toughts aphyon? of us who write in here, you are the one who actualy plays the game on regular basis and uses airplane models.

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I like where you are going with this for a dustified unit, a few things-DUST is pretty strict about uniformity for balance so the stats for the plane should match

class 2
6 wounds
movement grid of 12-24

as far as the weapons go-

I think you need to drop the range on the cannons to 2
(damage looks fine)
add in 2 one use bombs for 17, guided missiles or rockets for 18 and the infantry support railgun- statline(a single one center-line mounted) for 20.

i do like the kamikaze option, that is a nice touch. as a fire/burning wreck attack it would ignore infantry and cover saves so that makes sense as well.

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Thank you. I would want some sort of random dice roll on the kamikaze impact but i dont know how to creathe sutch a rule and to keep it simple. This the first time ever im trying to make rules for any game.

Did not know that there was an idea of balance uniformity for dust units, that will make things a bit easyer, but sadly allso a bit more duller.

So Is basicly the weapon damage the only thing that can be different?; aka armor value, hp points, weapon range and movment is the same across a whole group?

I am allso working on a cheap mercenary version of the allies micky (8ap) as a more durable alternative to the mercenary recoiless rifle support squad.
Basicly as i would want to have it, the support squad hits hard but is fragile, the merch micky hits "weakly" but is more durable. But to get ti donw to 8ap i would have to make it less durable then the usmc micky and remove one or both machineguns.

I want this becouse there is no offical cheap (7-8ap) anti tank walker that can be used by everyone.

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From playing the game you notice a few things-characters get the optional rules for variety.

Almost all ground units either move 2/4 or 3/5 there are few exceptions like the humanoid walkers are 3/4 (do not seem to run as fast but walk faster) and heavy weapon teams also go really slow like mortor teams etc...

All planes are locked into 12/24 just like the helicopters are locked into 6/12 but they have more wounds and the option to hover for suppressing fire.

One thing that is different- class 4 IJN walkers are more heavily armored so normally they would have 6 wounds but instead have 7 or 8 compared to every other walker of class 4. i think this is a balance to the fact the only super heavy walker they have is the iron samurai compared to all the 6/7 heavy vehicles available to all the other blocks.

Thank you. I would want some sort of random dice roll on the kamikaze impact but i dont know how to creathe sutch a rule and to keep it simple. This the first time ever im trying to make rules for any game.


It isn't needed. you only have a 33% chance to wound on a roll of army symbol for everything under the template as it is.



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Well i got my final order in from the main DUST shop-the premium luft horst. such a well done mini, and the only premium vehicle i own, will miss all the premiums i never got a hold of that were on my to-get list.




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 aphyon wrote:
Well i got my final order in from the main DUST shop-the premium luft horst. such a well done mini, and the only premium vehicle i own, will miss all the premiums i never got a hold of that were on my to-get list.



All my usmc and spetznas are premiums (100 ap each), kickstarter 6 years ago. The 1947 era premiums are better painted then the tactics premiums, as i placed a small order for premiums in the summer.

dustusa shop cloused yesterday, site is still up but shop has been disabled. warfactory has been vacumed for dust units expect the block stuff that noone realy wants, same for ammodrop, but since both sites sells other games or products, their shops wont shut down.

Got my warfactory order today: 1x ijn hq and troop unit in kit, 1x 777 in kit, 1 merc troop unit primed and 1x axis johanna kit.

I am missing a 2nd ijn tropp unit and the arty walker for a 100ap force and it is too late to find them now, so im at a end at around 70 or 75ap for ijn.

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Yeah looks like the mass buying rush is about to end. we all knew it was coming, but at least we got some things together.


.My SSU is sitting at 150AP it is a themed list so i don't think i will add anything to it.
X7 walkers, X2 artillery tractors, X2 spotting teams, X5 steel guards squads
.My allies are looking at 190AP give or take a few points depending on what i run the command walker as (AA/artillery/command)
X3 walkers, 1 plane, X4 special characters, X4heavy ranger teams, X2 SAS scout teams
.I just added a MI-GO assault squad to my Mythos so i got it up to 147AP
X3 special characters, 1 command squad, 1 mi-go squad, X4 monsters
.Last my big force axis-307AP between my fallshirmjager force and my heavy grenadier force.
X 5 walkers, X4 planes, X5 special characters, X5 heavy grenadier squads, 1 grenadier command squad, X3 falshirmjager squads, 1 fallshirmjager command squad,

I know both the other axis player and allies players are both over 200AP each (and the other SSU player is easily hitting 300...so many tanks and helicopters) so we have enough stuff for some good variety in our games.



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 FrozenDwarf wrote:
 aphyon wrote:
Well i got my final order in from the main DUST shop-the premium luft horst. such a well done mini, and the only premium vehicle i own, will miss all the premiums i never got a hold of that were on my to-get list.



All my usmc and spetznas are premiums (100 ap each), kickstarter 6 years ago. The 1947 era premiums are better painted then the tactics premiums, as i placed a small order for premiums in the summer.

dustusa shop cloused yesterday, site is still up but shop has been disabled. warfactory has been vacumed for dust units expect the block stuff that noone realy wants, same for ammodrop, but since both sites sells other games or products, their shops wont shut down.

Got my warfactory order today: 1x ijn hq and troop unit in kit, 1x 777 in kit, 1 merc troop unit primed and 1x axis johanna kit.

I am missing a 2nd ijn tropp unit and the arty walker for a 100ap force and it is too late to find them now, so im at a end at around 70 or 75ap for ijn.


Dust USA is closed for inventory temporarily. Their webstore wasn't accurately reflecting their actual inventory and they were issuing lots of refunds for things that people were ordering but they didn't actually have. They plan to go back live soon once they can correct the issue.

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thought their huge number of starter boxes was a bit odd...

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