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Here is a quick question, follow my reasoning for a second:

Anytime a Wargear or Weapon appears in a newer codex with different stats, that description or profile replaces the old one in older codexs.

Case in point the Assault Cannon. Deamonhunter players now have rending Crusaders, even though their codex alone says different.

Now the arguement I have seen is that only Terminator Squads in Codex Space Marines have the auto-deepstrike ability, because the actually Terminator Armor Description says "only in missions that allow it". So Codex Terminators gained an ability that other Terminators didn't.

However, things are different now. The latest version of the Space Marine Codex FAQ says that ALL models in Terminator Armor may Deepstrike. Also, the description of Terminator Armor in Black Templars says that they may always Deepstrike too. To further add to it. The latest codex, Codex: Dark Angels, has the always can Deepstrike listed in the description for Terminator Armor.

So can we assume that the Chaos Terminator Armor and Deamonhunter Terminator Armor descriptions have been automatically update?

They should be able to always deepstrike, but without such saying in their respective FaQ's, it wont hold much water that ALL terminators can deepstrike when refering to a Codex space marine FaQ'

The C:sm FAQ clarifies C:sm, not Chaos or daemonhunters.

I would understand that it would be shaky is we where only basing the arguement on the C: SM FAQ.

But two other newer codexs have the same printing for the Terminator Armor Description.

This is not a universally accepted assumption. There are still some players who believe that DH assault cannons are heavy 3 non-rending.

Wargear book has only one listing for the assault cannon, thus it's heavy 4 rending for everyone.

I believe there are three different versions of terminator armor in the Wargear book though (Inquisitorial, Chaos, and Loyalist). So they have different rules.

In the craptastic Wargear book it specifically states that only marine terminators can deep strike. I have ranted in the past and how horrilble it is that GK terminators cannot always deepstrike because it says so in thier description in that same horrible volume.

Chaos terminators cannot always deep strike. Nice try though.

- Greenie

Posted By Mahu on 03/26/2007 8:57 AM
Anytime a Wargear or Weapon appears in a newer codex with different stats, that description or profile replaces the old one in older codexs.

This is an assumption that is not backed up by any actual rules.

The Assault Cannon for DH was updated to the new rules because it was updated in the Wargear book, not because Space Marines have newer rules.

An item only gets updated rules if it actually gets updated rules. Different armies can have different rules. Bionics are a good example of this in action.

Posted By Mahu
But two other newer codexs have the same printing for the Terminator Armor Description.

Two other newer Space Marine Codexes...

Posted By Lemartes on 03/26/2007 1:46 PM
In the craptastic Wargear book it specifically states that only marine terminators can deep strike. I have ranted in the past and how horrilble it is that GK terminators cannot always deepstrike because it says so in thier description in that same horrible volume.

...?

There is no description of Grey Knight Terminators in the Wargear book... just the Terminator Armour entry and the Summary entry (which doesn't include special rules)...

But Grey Knight Terminators can always Deep Strike. DH TDA only confers the ability to Deep Strike if the mission allows it, but the Grey Knights 'Deep Strike' special rule grants the ability for the listed Grey Knights units to always Deep Strike.

So the restriction on the armour only DSing when the mission allows would only apply to non-Grey Knight models in TDA.