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All to help until the college disbursement get's here

you get paid for learning? how cool is that?^^

Looking good to me,i like my vehicles to look like they've been in the field for a good while.

Viktor von Domm wrote:you get paid for learning? how cool is that?^^

Well, it is left over money for help with expenses ,more like a stipend to help ease things, but they do hold it hostage a bi8t based on my passing or not!

shingouki wrote:Looking good to me,i like my vehicles to look like they've been in the field for a good while.

Well, I think with the Perun, I am getting there as far as out fighting for a good while.



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I mean, no matter how hard they try to hose it off, the tech-adepts never seem to completely get the tanks clean!
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A couple more oddball tanks for you: Hobbylink Japan website has a couple of 1/48 sci--fi tanks from Aoshima models' "City police 21" rage (whatever that is?), a MBT and a Tank destroyer type thingy. I'd put up a link but forgot how to. They seem the right size for 40k, not quite super-heavy but nearly, although they're not covered in bolt heads/rivets or skulls. Prices about $25.

Others you may care to look at are Micro max diecasts, which do M113's, Hanomag with MBRL, and others in about 1/48 scale, each for about £5.

IG GENERAL wrote:A couple more oddball tanks for you: Hobbylink Japan website has a couple of 1/48 sci--fi tanks from Aoshima models' "City police 21" rage (whatever that is?), a MBT and a Tank destroyer type thingy. I'd put up a link but forgot how to. They seem the right size for 40k, not quite super-heavy but nearly, although they're not covered in bolt heads/rivets or skulls. Prices about $25.

Others you may care to look at are Micro max diecasts, which do M113's, Hanomag with MBRL, and others in about 1/48 scale, each for about £5.

I have and modified the Tank destroyer looking MBT-90D Mazurka, it was the last pic I placed above your post! ^^ I see that the MBT-99 Temjin is in stock now. Hmmm, like the double track set up.



As for this one: I moved the main gun into the turret and a Heavy bolter in the bow.

i am not sure about the design of the double track monster...what could be the point of having two tracks each sie? definatly not manouverablity...any lese reason for that?

I did see a diagram, they are independent suspension for them so while one is going down something, the other slightly grips the pothers side until ready to also hit that side. Strange, eh? It would also have a side benefit of still having some working tracks if one set get's shot out.

Possibly to aid in traversing more rough terrain with less general bounce and discomfort for the crew? No idea. Though i do think it looks pretty neat.

Now, how long did it take for your salt mixture to actually dry on the model. I am trying it out and so far its nearly been 36 hours and its still equally as wet as it was upon application. I may need to fine tune the mixture of salt and paint to try and remedy this. Though what is your experience with it?

Cheers.
FireCancer

Ah, I did mix with Graveyard Earth paint as well as a liberal application of salt. It dried within a scant few hours, but I did apply it is smallish amounts.

did see a diagram, they are independent suspension for them so while one is going down something, the other slightly grips the pothers side until ready to also hit that side. Strange, eh? It would also have a side benefit of still having some working tracks if one set get's shot out.

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Possibly to aid in traversing more rough terrain with less general bounce and discomfort for the crew?

tho without concern for crew and rather more concern into accouracy...

ok, I may have been too liberal in my application!
I will try lessening the amount i slather on each application.

I used scorched brown and a bit of snakebite leather.
As soon as i have access to my camera again(I.E. the wife gives it back) I will be taking photos of the various mud effects i have been trying out. I think my one method came out quite well on my Scratchbuilt Truck.

True, Vik. Accuracy is more important! ahh, the crew can deal with a few concussions as long as they can AIM straight!

exactly^^

also i wonder why you don´t simply glue the salt or for that matter sand on the parts that you want muddy with pva... after that painting or drybrushing can happen...

I have done that, though i am currently testing out multiple types of muddying and weather. To see which one has the desired effect.

I have tried a PVA and sand mix, straight sand onto PVA on the model.
I am trying the salt method in both the mixture, and glued on.

Mainly just experimenting in general.

sounds good, if you get the cam i would like to see comparrision pics for each methode... a how to do and what it likes guide so to speak...
also some basilikum herbs in the mix might look cool too...or not? for leaves?

Sure thing. I plan on throwing up a thread with each type, and end result photos!

Hmm, a posibiilty. I haven't thought about putting some foliage into my weathering. More Ideas!

yep that what we are here for... be sure to drop me a line when you start the blog...wouldn´t want to miss it^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:i am not sure about the design of the double track monster...what could be the point of having two tracks each sie? definatly not manouverablity...any lese reason for that?

Hmm, the best advantage I can see is survivability. Maybe if the one of the tracks got shot off, it could still move at a decent enough speed on the other three.

hmmm... woulodn´t that mean einter that the tank would be in a cycle moving? or that the friction of the broken track would slow the tank considerably down...? my knowledge of tanks is rather limited...

Ah, well, the shot track would be slipped off most likely, and the wheels would sort of keep the tank up, and no0t tip over, allowing the other three track sections to keep it moving!

The other standardized tracks, well, once the tread is shot off, that usually leads to the one side sinking all of those wheels into the ground and pinning the tank and turning it into a pill-box.


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There are snippets of a multi-tread mobile tank, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCy0cRHnKf0&feature=related


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Very inbteresting battle tank-mecha with four treads


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Ooops! six sections of treads!

cool videaos, i have too keep my eye open for some gundam movies it seems...was hard to find out for whom i should feel sympathy ...either the better tank crew or the mecha squad...was a close catch...the music of the first gave me goosebumps all over, love that kind of fully operatic rocky sound...
and didn´t in the second movie the tracks even selfrepaire?

personally from what i have seen in movies i would never want to fight in a tank... i think every tank crew member knows that the viehicle will be his steeled grave...

Oh, the series is for the other ideof the war in Gundam, but the mobility of the multiple treads was shown nicely, but in the end, when it went to robotic looks, the treads were too mangled by the mecha squad, (Those mechs were captured by the other side BTW)

Steel coffins for the tank crews, but they now make new system,s to make that less a worry.

would be fishy still for me... tho nothing strikes fear in the heart of a footslogger than a turning turret...and boy are they quick at that these days...

Viktor von Domm wrote:would be fishy still for me... tho nothing strikes fear in the heart of a footslogger than a turning turret...and boy are they quick at that these days...

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Yeah, charging cross country, 50-60kmph, laser tracking sights for quick lock on to destroy their targets.

Yeah, charging cross country, 50-60kmph, laser tracking sights for quick lock on to destroy their victims.

sorry for correcting you here

Okay well, 40 or so MPH cross country, slinging mud from tracks and laser5 locking on targets, I have watched plenty of footage of that for the M-1 and the Leopard-2's

Wow, I feel so strange since I had not worked on the Perun or the Old Crow tanks in a while, but I am distracted by Math Cramming for the finals, that is my excuse, and I'm sticking to it!

Alright guys i got a little bored today. So i built these for my Counts As LRBT.

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nice mudeffects, and size alltogether looks cool and quite modern...but there seem to be some disturbing details... the smokelaunchers at the aft seem to be mounted downwards...??? would this work? also there is something odd about the sponsons... the door behind them is too much visible still...and to deal a further strike... the turret seems to look a bit as if hanging only by some threads... this connection should be flesshed out...is the paintjob complete or will only the new bitz be finished?

anyway i still think this design is cool...despite my critic! maybe you could shave off the aquilla above the sponsons...this might help...

at shaso...maths vs perun...odd choice in an oddbal tank thread^^

Yeah, Firecancewr has made some nice work, and Math versus Perun is a odd choice.

Perun got "bapotized" the last week in an Apoc game,,,before it was totally finished, and lasted till the last turn before being "wrecked" by those sneaky Eldar!