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Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut




this is basicly what i have come up useing the new codex, At first i didn;t think i would have much issue since i was already jump pack heavy.

HQ

 

200 – Dante

125 – Lemartes

205 – Honor guard 5 vets, 2 power weapons, Dante’s Banner

 

ELITES

 

220 – Vet assault squad, 6 vets, 3 power weapons

220 – Vet assault squad, 6 vets, 3 power weapons

25 – Death Company, 5 man with jump packs

 

TROOPS

 

260 – assault squad, vet Sgt with power fist , 9 marines 1 plasma pistol

260 – assault squad, vet Sgt with power fist , 9 marines 1 plasma pistol

 

FAST ATTACK

 

50 – Attack bike, multi melta

50 – Attack bike, multi metla

 

HEAVY SUPPORT

 

130 – Predator , auto-cannon,  Las-cannon sponsons

130 – Predator, auto- cannon , Las-cannon sponsons

125 – Baal predator, heavy bolter sponsons

2000 points

dante runs with the honor guard since the banner will tos him another attack.   lemmy runs with the dc which brings both squads up to 6 man.   so 4 6 man elite jump teams  2 10 man jump squads,  2 fast multi metas and 3 tanks.

My issue with it is this my current BA list was as follows

sang high priest, power weapon, halo, pistol, jump pack, term honors, melta bomb

DC chap, pistol, jump pack ,melta bomb

sang high priests  Honor guard  7 man  , all with jump pack, term honor, power weapon, pistol

3x 5 man tacs, with vet sgt and las cannon

3x 8 man assault squad with vet sgt  and 2 plasma pistols

2x pred with twin las and las sponsons

1x baal pred with heavy bolters

and the random dc which was normally  about 8 to 10 guys with 3 or 4 power weapons.

the honor gaurd they were 42 points a pop,  I always looked at it like they were assult termies that actually worked.

Both lists look similar but I just don't feel all warm and fuzzy with the new one , they have similar number of units but i just don;t think i have near the amount of anti- tank, and i know i don't have near the number of bodies. I added two powerfists, but  the number of power weapons is the same or a little less, and not all in the same location to get the max amount out of the first turn of assault. I also will have to buy  2 pred auto cannon turrets and 2 attack bikes and 2 power fists, though thats nothing really big.

I'm just after  what people think , and wondering if im the only person who feels the army list got smaked a little hard with the big foam bat.  I think the one thing im going to really miss is the +1 str +1 I on the charge, but the sang high priest charcter dosen't come with a jump pack and can't be given one or a bike.  so in an army that moves 12 inches a turn a model that moves 6 isn't going to work.


fellblade wrote:Always buy ugly dice. Pretty dice think it's enough that they look good; ugly dice put out.
 
   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut





Would it be possible to slap melta bombs on some sgts? That would go a long way in resolving anti-tank issues, and the preds huck out enough shots to keep skimmers at bay. I think you will be vulnerable to swampage...I see nothing that will chew through 50 conscripts in a timely fashion, so that's something to be aware of. If I were up against this list, I'd have a giant meatshield squad of 50 odd men sitting out in front of the gunline trying to tie up any of your squads (as they are all more expensive than the horde o meat sticks) and shooting the rest into oblivion. Also, how do you plan on dealing with cover? Do the vets come with frag grenades? If not, you REALLY need to get some, as most lists won't try to take you on in hth.
cheers
   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut




every marine in a BA army now comes standard with frag and krak, and a bolt pistol.

really in the past i have found jump packs let me avoid the 50 man bog down unit, but also most of the marines are packing 3 or more attacks and the dc have rending. the baal throws out 10 shots a turn at ap4 so it can tear threw most any minor infantry. my issue is the huge decrease in the number of troops  from the two editions and the loss of  5 las-cannons.

I would hand out some melta bombs but you can't with the BA. there are no Sgt's in the vet squads , and its not clear weither or not you have to give all the vets a melta bomb at 5 points a pop or if you can give it to just one , same goes for the honor gaurd. the basic troop squad the vet has a power fist which will do better than a melta bomb.


fellblade wrote:Always buy ugly dice. Pretty dice think it's enough that they look good; ugly dice put out.
 
   
 
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