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Cheese Elemental wrote:

Manchu wrote:Have you guys played a non-uploaded Shepard yet?

No, that wouldn't be any fun at all.

I have to agree with Cheese here. For me, ME2 is all about continuing the saga, the story. Not shooting bad guys. (That comes later )

If my characters suddenly wiped and I had nothing left, I would still prefer to play ME1 again and then upload them to ME2.

thats what im doing.

Emperors Faithful wrote:

Cheese Elemental wrote:

Manchu wrote:Have you guys played a non-uploaded Shepard yet?

No, that wouldn't be any fun at all.

I have to agree with Cheese here. For me, ME2 is all about continuing the saga, the story. Not shooting bad guys. (That comes later )

If my characters suddenly wiped and I had nothing left, I would still prefer to play ME1 again and then upload them to ME2.

If you think about it, this is a pretty bad review of ME2.

Manchu wrote:

Emperors Faithful wrote:

Cheese Elemental wrote:

Manchu wrote:Have you guys played a non-uploaded Shepard yet?

No, that wouldn't be any fun at all.

I have to agree with Cheese here. For me, ME2 is all about continuing the saga, the story. Not shooting bad guys. (That comes later )

If my characters suddenly wiped and I had nothing left, I would still prefer to play ME1 again and then upload them to ME2.

If you think about it, this is a pretty bad review of ME2.

Why? IMO ME2 adds and contributes to the Shepard story. I think the games were meant to work in unsion. I would never think of ME2 as a standalone game.

A game that doesn't stand on its own merits is called an expansion.

Yeah. Hence the '2'.

That doesn't mean it's not a good game. It's just that much better when combined with ME1.

Wait, that's not what was just said. Cheese said it would be no fun at all without loading the ME1 data (which with I am inclined to agree but will probably try it) and you said you would rather play another game of ME1 to have data for ME2 rather than starting without. Plus, you said that it wasn't a standalone game. See, a sequel is a standalone game. I didn't need to have played Half Life in order to enjoy Half Life 2, even though the story of Gordon Freeman was continued in Half Life 2. ME2 is (pretty) good but I don't know if it's a good "game." I kind of agree with Cheese's and your unintentional review that ME2 is a "good expansion" for ME1.

What are we even arguing about?

Cheese is saying ME2 is a good expansion.
I'm saying ME2 goes well with ME1.
You're saying that ME2 isn't that great on its own?

What's the difference between all these statments?

Emperors Faithful wrote:What are we even arguing about?

Cheese is saying ME2 is a good expansion.
I'm saying ME2 goes well with ME1.
You're saying that ME2 isn't that great on its own?

What's the difference between all these statments?

Your method of delivery for the same point differs between the three of you. Thus, it's grounds for debate

I played it without loading me1 data. it was still fun. it is a game on its own merits.

It is certainly a funtional game, but not AS great when the two are combined! Power Rangers Unite!

im going to see about going in without all the normandy upgrades or all my squad members loyal.


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garret wrote:im going to see about going in without all the normandy upgrades or all my squad members loyal.


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I've seen a video of that ending, and it totally sucks. It isn't even exciting, it just makes you feel depressed.

The Paragon ending was awesome though.

did. 3 people didnt make it out alive.


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although how do you get to that ending?

garret wrote:did. 3 people didnt make it out alive.


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although how do you get to that ending?

Which ending? The best Paragon one?

So I played the game 3 times. Normal, veteran and insane. And I have to say the harder the game gets the better. And the game is pretty good if a lot more linear.

First off the bad.

Comments relate to insanity difficulty.

Insane IMO has some problems, like if your not a soldier how do you kill anything when even the husks have armor? Biotics lol

I don't like the ammo system. In one instance I ran out of ammo completely on Horizon and had to tediously concussive shot the enemies to death. Also Garrus glitched and wouldn't move or fire. bloody dumbass turians cant trust em. Ironically I found horizon with my non imported brand new char harder then the end of the game..

Insane has always been about exploiting the stupid AI (it was in Mass effect 1). Like confusing the pathing (aka ring around a rosy) of the husks on the final bit of the Reaper IFF mission.

Lack of inventory sucks as does the armors. The inferno armor also sucks as its just a skin dunno why they bothered.

I think its funny that because of head shots damage the vindicator rifle is better then all the other ones. You need to headshot or you wont have enough ammo.

Yeoman chambers said she'd feed my fish then let them die.. what a dumb ass. Glad she died on my last play through.

The whole point of courting the pathetic and disgusting tali is to see her purple face.. game fails..

If you make save instead of only autosaving and you hit continue rather then load (you know when you die) the game takes you to the wrong save..

Its kind of funny that for my last character I tried to get shepard to die at the end (I didnt upgrade the ship at all) but he still lived, because I didnt know loyalty was the basis for his death or not. So none of my shepards died. Yet the load screens kept saying if you survive.. Like its hard.. The only person who would not survive at the end is someone who buys mass effect thinking its an FPS and hates dialogue..

Normandy crash site seem a bit pointless.

Scanning planets.. bah wtf were they thinking. It scans slow even if you get the upgrade and spin the planet to speed up the scanner. Too slow too dull.

There is a lack of manipulation. I remember on ME1 on noveria there were three ways to end the mission of of getting the garage pass. talk to the turian insider, the undercover girl or the corrupt boss. Now it seems there just paragon or renegade method.

Also

The Good.

Combat is way better. Allies are still slowed but its way better.

I didn't get the DLC til my last play through to save the joy of it..

First of Zaeedo is my favorite character. His loyality mission was gold and represented a real decision. His justice is cool.

The flame thrower is awesome and I used it heavily as its fun when Some nasty bugger closes on you like harbringer.

Most of the characters are great. Loyalty missions have alot of variety. Even anomoly mission are varied if short. Favs characters zaeedo, Legion, garrus, Thane (even though he's a bit stiff) Samara.

Jokes like the Turian in the friend zone with a Quarian. OR the game shop salarian.

Headshot a heavy mech and he explodes like a smallish nuke.. that was cool if hard to do.

Mission variety was really great I have to say it again.


Ugly

Really though the game needs some sort of inventory system..

Overall considering no game is perfect I give it 4 out of 5.

has anyone sided with morinth yet instead of samara in her loyalty mission? what is she like in battle?
Im going to get the me1 play through it on easy or normal lol. then playthrough on with the choices i made before.\
has anyone noticed the references joke says when he

If you side with morinth she just pretends to be samara.. so not much difference. That part of the game is glitcy it seems. First for me the audio stops working (i done it more then once) when they are hurling bolt of energy at each other.. and the last time I played I didnt get a choice.. and morinth was stopped without me pressing any buttons.

same here. no audio.

You have to have a high Paragon/Renegade level to choose which one you kill.

Shaman wrote:
Yeoman chambers said she'd feed my fish then let them die.. what a dumb ass. Glad she died on my last play through.

*facepalm*

She let my fish die.. so then she died..

Justice?

@ cheese thanx for that I didnt know what the reason was.

And why would you want Morinth anyway? She's a vampire who kills you by having mindsex.

At the end of the game (after the final cutscene and credits) if you kept Morinth alive and have her loyal she says 'I think your mind is strong enough to have relations with you'. Then if you accept it comes up with 'Critical Mission Failure' exactly the same way you die any other way. I laughed, hard.

Shaman wrote:She let my fish die.. so then she died..

Justice?

Mate, if you honestly think that she meant to 'feed your fish' literally then you need to get out more.

Emperors Faithful wrote:

Shaman wrote:She let my fish die.. so then she died..

Justice?

Mate, if you honestly think that she meant to 'feed your fish' literally then you need to get out more.

Nonsense. Woman offers to make me pancakes, I expect my damn pancakes. Not some bloody toast!

She offers to feed my fish, and hidden meaning or not, she better feed my fish. Otherwise, I'm pushing her down a flight of space-stairs. That's right, not just any stairs. Space ones.

metallifan wrote:

Emperors Faithful wrote:

Shaman wrote:She let my fish die.. so then she died..

Justice?

Mate, if you honestly think that she meant to 'feed your fish' literally then you need to get out more.

Nonsense. Woman offers to make me pancakes, I expect my damn pancakes. Not some bloody toast!

She offers to feed my fish, and hidden meaning or not, she better feed my fish. Otherwise, I'm pushing her down a flight of space-stairs. That's right, not just any stairs. Space ones.

LOL

Especially concerning 'Space-stairs'.

anyone call kelly into the cabin after the game is complete and you keep exploring? she turns into a stripper.

garret wrote:anyone call kelly into the cabin after the game is complete and you keep exploring? she feed your fish...finally!

Fixed that for you.

found this
http://roosterteeth.com/comics/strip.php?id=1533