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Kilkrazy wrote:An interesting perspective on the cuts from The Register.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/20/comment/

Just two points on that mess of an article, I wont bother with more, though there is something blatantly wrong with just about every paragraph.


Much of it was caused by Nimrod: much, much more by the Eurofighter, a Tory project originally. Sure, Brown in his final months locked the MoD into a contract for aircraft carriers which has meant the Coalition being unable to cancel them - but it was the Tories who locked the MoD into its insane order for no less than 232 Eurofighters, which is still grinding on and costing money to this day. (In the end we will get many less, but only because the programme's horrific cost overruns have breached a cost ceiling. No money has been saved.) The Tories have cost us far more with Eurofighter (£20bn+) than ever Labour did with carriers (£5-6bn).

Ok, the Tories ordered it, but who ran the government since then.


The Royal Navy will retain no less than 19 largely pointless frigates and destroyers, and its witless plans for new Type 26 frigates - basically retreads of existing Type 23s - will move ahead.
This will have been immensely popular across most of the RN, whose wildly overmanned officer corps is dependent on there being plenty of frigates and destroyers for any hope of promotion - or indeed continued employment. But it's not just Cold War thinking - it's early Cold War thinking. As soon as capable antisubmarine helicopters came into service in the 1970s the antisubmarine frigate was obsolete: as soon as capable sea-skimming missiles appeared in the 1980s the case for air-defence destroyers was fatally weakened.......

......What the navy actually needs for real wars of every type - as opposed to the Cold War of the 1960s - is proper aircraft carriers and amphibious ships.


Muppet. Though the frigate has an ASW fleet role and the destroyer has an AAW fleet role that only applies to fleet operations. Frigates and destroyers are general purpose vessels. You cant make a fleet out of just carriers and amphibious support ships. Armchair admirals are all very well, we can all be one, but this guys idea of a navy reads a lot like a childs opinion.

sebster wrote:

Frazzled wrote:We're having a nice conversation about Cthulu, and you come along and ruin it with a personal attack. Way to go Sebster.

You think that was a personal attack? Seriously? Enough to get all moderator over it? Wow.

The guy banned me for it. Consider yourself lucky.

ShumaGorath wrote:

sebster wrote:

Frazzled wrote:We're having a nice conversation about Cthulu, and you come along and ruin it with a personal attack. Way to go Sebster.

You think that was a personal attack? Seriously? Enough to get all moderator over it? Wow.

The guy banned me for it. Consider yourself lucky.

Wait, if that guy banned you, how did you manage to post? OMG a doppleganger's stolen Shuma's skin and is now posting on the intranets! Everyone kiss your asses goodbye, get out your Cthulu idols and spark up the Weiner Dog signal. Only the combined forces of the Weiner Legions and Cthulu can save us now!

ShumaGorath wrote:

sebster wrote:

Frazzled wrote:We're having a nice conversation about Cthulu, and you come along and ruin it with a personal attack. Way to go Sebster.

You think that was a personal attack? Seriously? Enough to get all moderator over it? Wow.

The guy banned me for it. Consider yourself lucky.

Happy Frazzled Day! What presents did you get? I got the ability to divert arguments I'm not winning. I think it might come in handy....

I got a sock with some walnuts in...

Pah! I've got a bag of old brass doorknobs.

Oh sorry, I thought we were still on the topic of military equipment.

Hmm, I got guns and Texmex.

I guess we all know who thinks Frazzled mod is bestest mod.

Perhaps quit personally attacking people Shuma and you won't get banned. Neat how that works, isn't it?

Fateweaver wrote:Hmm, I got guns and Texmex.

I guess we all know who thinks Frazzled mod is bestest mod.

Perhaps quit personally attacking people Shuma and you won't get banned. Neat how that works, isn't it?

In other news I found out:
1) take weiner dogs camping and girl scouts will flock to you like geese.
2) by lunchtime Tbone the Terror does not like girl scouts.
3) the sight of a deer makes Rodney the Shanker stop cold. The sight of a herd of deer makes him go berserk however.