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2014/03/18 21:46:06
Subject: Re:Boeing 777 with 239 people on board missing.
I bring up the Freescale Semiconductor people because someone may have wanted them ! Not because I think they cloaked the plane.
They would make great ransom bait or assets due to their knowledge.
So someone wants to kidnap 20 people that might be working on a super-secret "cloaking device" and they also have the resources to know enough personal information about them to know that they work on a super-secret cloaking device and also what flights they take and when, so that makes the easiest and most obvious way to apprehend said people is to develop an extremely complex plan involving the full scale take over of a Boeing 777 and effectively hide it's location and the passengers from every country in the world?
Logic would dictate that if a person or persons have the resources and the technical knowledge to pull off so a complex and convoluted plan involving everything I just described, it would be much, much, much easier just to abduct those people from their houses or cars or grocery store or local mall.
Occam's razor much?
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2014/03/18 22:03:08
Subject: Re:Boeing 777 with 239 people on board missing.
Putin orchestrated the whole deal with Crimea as a cover; he was actually after the £250bn in gold that the Liechtensteinean government had hidden in the aircraft.
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2014/03/18 22:48:27
Subject: Boeing 777 with 239 people on board missing.
What I don't understand is that it can't just vanish from radar if it was hijacked. If you were sitting at your desk watching a blip across the screen labeled mh370 and then the flight turns of all its transponders it will still be on Rader just it won't say mh370 anymore. So how can it just dissappear? Unless maybe there is a small area when the plane was switching over to Vietnam airspace in which it was perfect to just slip out of radar coverage. But you would have to know that and time it perfectly.
2014/03/19 06:27:28
Subject: Re:Boeing 777 with 239 people on board missing.
tuiman wrote: What I don't understand is that it can't just vanish from radar if it was hijacked.
Because, as I've said, the civilian* air traffic control system works under the assumption that everyone is cooperating and trying to to crash and die. There are a variety of ways in which a plane could disappear: it could be in a gap in radar coverage where controllers depend on verbal position reports, it could be automatically filtered out as junk data without the transponder return, it could be too inaccurate without the transponder altitude data to help determine the aircraft's position, or it could simply be an anonymous dot on the radar that nobody connects with the "missing" plane because nobody knows there's a problem, etc.
*Of course the military doesn't assume everyone is cooperating, but the military probably has very little interest in what's going on with random airliners far away from anything of strategic interest and wouldn't even consider worrying about a "missing" plane until someone asked them to help find it.
If you were sitting at your desk watching a blip across the screen labeled mh370 and then the flight turns of all its transponders it will still be on Rader just it won't say mh370 anymore.
Sure, if you were doing nothing but tracking mh370 that would be the case. But you're not just tracking that one plane, you're dealing with a lot of them. It would be very easy to get distracted by dealing with something that requires your active involvement, not pay much attention to a plane that's going to be flying straight and level for a while without going anywhere near any other traffic, and not notice anything has happened to it until long after it has lost its ID tag and gone somewhere you don't expect it to be (or even disappeared entirely).
But you would have to know that and time it perfectly.
If you fly that route frequently enough you probably do know where the dead spot (if one exists) is because you have to make verbal position reports (or, if you're below a certain altitude, you're just on your own with no ATC help) when you're in it. So you just wait until you're in the spot where you have no
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2014/03/19 06:38:58
Subject: Boeing 777 with 239 people on board missing.
I bring up the Freescale Semiconductor people because someone may have wanted them ! Not because I think they cloaked the plane.
They would make great ransom bait or assets due to their knowledge.
That would be an unwilling asset extraction job, and I already posted a Shadowrun hypothesis back on page 5. And FYI, no runner team capable of pulling off a job like this would actually do it... grabbing those guys by stealing an entire fraggin' airplane is too complicated when you can just snatch them from whatever corp housing block they live in.
And I apologize to anyone who has no idea what I'm talking about. I'm currently GMing a Shadowrun game, and I have it on the brain a lot, lately.
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2014/03/19 08:37:04
Subject: Re:Boeing 777 with 239 people on board missing.
.. I'm sure this was used in a film or something ...?
Does this sound possible at all ?
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2014/03/19 11:04:17
Subject: Boeing 777 with 239 people on board missing.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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2014/03/19 11:06:04
Subject: Re:Boeing 777 with 239 people on board missing.
Maybe the giant crab from skyrim has it?
Oh I know, cannables were on the plane and get this,they ate everyone and themselves.
Russian sleep experiment did it?
Golum thought the ring was in the engine.
*Insert witty and/or interesting statement here*
2014/03/19 14:23:24
Subject: Boeing 777 with 239 people on board missing.
I know the internet is aflame with the latest "electrical fire" theory (pun intended), but it seems to not take in to account other information that we know about the plane after it lost contact with controllers.
d-usa wrote: "When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
2014/03/19 15:46:14
Subject: Re:Boeing 777 with 239 people on board missing.
If there was distinct, level maneuvering after the initial turn and contact loss, then yeah, somebody was at the controls, so fire starts to make less sense. In a post-9/11 world, nobody's getting out of the cockpit and making room for hijackers without at least squawking hijack first, so that puts it on the pilots, in my mind.
2014/03/19 15:47:32
Subject: Boeing 777 with 239 people on board missing.
Clearly its a giant ad for the new Godzilla movie.
Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
2014/03/19 15:49:20
Subject: Boeing 777 with 239 people on board missing.
Ravenous D wrote: Clearly its a giant ad for the new Godzilla movie.
Beat you to that one.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2014/03/19 15:53:13
Subject: Boeing 777 with 239 people on board missing.
Why hasn't a single nation checked for weird readings of energon around this area?
If it is Aliens, it has to be the transformers!
Slaanesh: "Hey guys we're back! We brought presents. And yes, they ARE sexually suggestive"
Tzeentch: "So did we miss anything while we were away"
Khorne and Nurgle trade a shifty glance
Tzeentch: "Hey! Whos been touching my stuff! Where did my Old World go?!"
Khorne and Nurgle wander off whistling.
2014/03/19 17:20:10
Subject: Boeing 777 with 239 people on board missing.
It was Nick Cage. So he could steal the Declaration of Independance... Why? I don't know.
Poor ignorant guardsmen, it be but one of many of the great miracles of the Emperor! The Emperor is magic, like Harry Potter, but more magic! A most real and true SPACE WIZARD! And for the last time... I'm not a space plumber.
No worries. CNN has something that tops even The Event.
Josh Feldman wrote:CNN’s Don Lemon: ‘Is It Preposterous’ to Think a Black Hole Caused Flight 370 to Go Missing?
CNN’s Don Lemon has been entertaining all sorts of theories about the missing Malaysian Airlines Flight 370, including the chance something “supernatural” happened, but on Wednesday night, he actually asked panelists about the possibility a black hole was involved.
Lemon brought this up along with other “conspiracy theories” people have been floating on Twitter, including people noting the eerie parallels to Lost and The Twilight Zone, and wondered, “is it preposterous” to consider a black hole as a possibility?
Mary Schiavo, a former Inspector General for the U.S. Department of Transportation, said, “A small black hole would suck in our entire universe, so we know it’s not that.”
Here’s another theory I’ll just throw out there: what about the plane entered a wormhole into another dimension? I don’t know if that’s how the science works, though.
FOXNews is targeting the "right wing" demographic and MSNBC is targeting the "left wing" demographic. CNN appears to be targeting the "I get my news from tabloid magazines" demographic. Remember when CNN actually did news?
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