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Agreed, it feels like GW went all in on the Double Turn as their marketing gimick and kind of forgot about terrain and spells for a while. Now I do think terrain did need pulling in a bit - things like the Ossiarch Nexus are bonkers huge to just throw down on the table after putting all the rest of the terrain out.

So not only would I welcome more factions getting caught up with terrain ,but I'd also welcome smaller ones that actually fit the table. Things like the Skitterportals for Skaven are ideal - they fit the table and have an impact

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
True. Hopefully they'll go back and finish off whoever doesn't have any yet.

Is there a list of which factions are missing either and/or both?

I don't have an exhaustive list, but of the factions I play, Nurgle is missing spells, Nighthaunt and Tzeentch are missing terrain.

Are there any Ogor endless spells? They've got the Mawpits and Mawpots, but not spells. You'd think some thematic Ever-Winter spells would be easy to come up with

The Archnarok themed Incarnate of Ghur spell hopefully will get a release too.

Cities of Sigmar don't have any either, but stormcast have some.

Cities would be easy enough to do with their cult of the wheel thing. Zenestra has basically showcased them all already.

i was definitely surprised to see that we were getting new faction terrain, but it's a pleasant surprise. even if it's not for a faction i play, i enjoy painting terrain, and my ethos towards building boards is that anything can be used anywhere (setting dependant, of course)— if i use these in an AOS game without any orruks in it, that now becomes part of the on-board narrative, and also is a cool piece to see on the board

endless spells are also just cool models

The swampy endless spell thing would also work well on a board as terrain, I'd imagine.

I'm not a feet enjoyer but I like The Feet of Mork (or was Gork? I'm not memeing, I don't remember) being finally a physical entity on the tabletop, some Endless Spells are fantastic for dioramas/photo sessions of Oldhammer amd this will be a centrepiece.

Not sure if its been posted yet, but I just noticed that they dropped some Darkoath fiction on the day of the preview :

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/lq4rteka/chronicles-of-ruin-oaths-of-hate/

Yeah that was a good little read. Wish they'd compile shorts like these and all the Dawnbringers shorts into a proper omnibus.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/l0jgjaih/crush-all-before-you-with-frydaal-the-chainmaker/

I think this will be the first mini released specifically for The Old World that I'll port over to AoS. Slaps the pants off of similar themed Holga Clovenhorn, which was an AoS commemorative mini a year or two back.

Not a deal breaker, but hopefully the shield that looks to be strapped to her back is removeable, or (less likely) is close to the newer aesthetic of shield that AoS Chaos Warriors get.

As STD are in both and share very similar designs I can 100% see that there will be a LOT of porting of models. Heck I bet people will use the awesome AoS marauders instead of the old world ones.

its a shame GW have a management attitude that has split the development like that instead of having cross game factions. Who knows perhaps in an edition or two they'll wisen up; until then - yep pinch those awesome game specific models and swap them over.

Community: the high cost of building an army killed whfb, you needed to spend so much money just buying basic troop miniatures to build an army.

GW: releases old world with troop units in bulk quantitues at a competitive price point

Community: bah, i cant believe GW wabts to sell us these charming old miniatures for so cheap, im going to spend 3x more per miniature to buy the AoS versions instead.

 nels1031 wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/l0jgjaih/crush-all-before-you-with-frydaal-the-chainmaker/

I think this will be the first mini released specifically for The Old World that I'll port over to AoS. Slaps the pants off of similar themed Holga Clovenhorn, which was an AoS commemorative mini a year or two back.

Not a deal breaker, but hopefully the shield that looks to be strapped to her back is removeable, or (less likely) is close to the newer aesthetic of shield that AoS Chaos Warriors get.

She's 100% becoming defacto leader of my Darkoath

She's a nice model. I doubt she actually makes chains. She looks more like a warrior than a blacksmith. Still, nice model.

 Overread wrote:
As STD are in both and share very similar designs I can 100% see that there will be a LOT of porting of models. Heck I bet people will use the awesome AoS marauders instead of the old world ones.

its a shame GW have a management attitude that has split the development like that instead of having cross game factions. Who knows perhaps in an edition or two they'll wisen up; until then - yep pinch those awesome game specific models and swap them over.

If GW were to go all the way, they'd put more system specific trophies on their models to dissuade people even more. Like the Sigmarine helmets we already have, and I guess Tomb King burial masks for The Old World. Hey, I should write GW a letter and suggest it to them.

To be fair that really only works one way. In AoS its so bonkers in the realm size and faction variety that you can have helms of Old World factions on models and it still works because it just means your hero likely wiped out some minor kingdom of random no-name people at some point.


And even AoS to Old World about the only really identifiable parts are going to be things like Stormcast faceplates.

Damn you! My plan is foiled!

Now I have to go back to my volcano fortress and come up with new dastardly ways for GW to annoy people.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Community: the high cost of building an army killed whfb, you needed to spend so much money just buying basic troop miniatures to build an army.

GW: releases old world with troop units in bulk quantitues at a competitive price point

Community: bah, i cant believe GW wabts to sell us these charming old miniatures for so cheap, im going to spend 3x more per miniature to buy the AoS versions instead.

Define "charming"

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Looks charming to me.

I think the old marauders are good sculpts for a rank & flank unit. I just loathe painting them since they're 50% bare skin and I spend 80% of my painting time touching up previously touched-up touch ups :(

Having grown up with them they are fine, and easier to paint regiment style, rather than the tiny details that GW insist on packing on their models in the last few years.

Are the new darkoath models better? Yes.
Are they suitable for a massed ranked war game for regular painters? Not really.

Sorry I'm not into bushy eyebrows and Liefeld's chests lmao

 CMLR wrote:
Sorry I'm not into bushy eyebrows and Liefeld's chests lmao

That comment made me realize that eyebrows are a very rare sight on warhammer models. Not even talking about sculped like on the above but its rare to even see them painted on. The only EM example I could find on a quick search was on Galen ven Denst

 Matrindur wrote:

 CMLR wrote:
Sorry I'm not into bushy eyebrows and Liefeld's chests lmao

That comment made me realize that eyebrows are a very rare sight on warhammer models. Not even talking about sculped like on the above but its rare to even see them painted on. The only EM example I could find on a quick search was on Galen ven Denst

Huh. I'm going to have to pay attention to that in the future. I have a hard time seeing a face as finished without the eyebrows. If that's GW's standard approach, it explains why I generally like helmeted versions of their models better than unhelmeted ones.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Community: the high cost of building an army killed whfb, you needed to spend so much money just buying basic troop miniatures to build an army.

GW: releases old world with troop units in bulk quantitues at a competitive price point

Community: bah, i cant believe GW wabts to sell us these charming old miniatures for so cheap, im going to spend 3x more per miniature to buy the AoS versions instead.

happens after 20 years of marketing telling people you need display model quality and GD quality paintjobs for every single grunt model that is just there for unlocks and spends its live unseen on the table

In addition people tell others that you cannot play certain R&F games because of bad model quality and now the same people say that worse quality models are perfectly fine

And when the reason to play a game is reduced to "models look cool" things come together

So apparently this guy is hitting the wild. And it's the same deal as the Catachan Colonel.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
So apparently this guy is hitting the wild. And it's the same deal as the Catachan Colonel.

Oh, another limited Catachan model? Cool... I guess some day there're enough for a Kill Team.

Don't see enough of the dead guy. Is it a Wight King or a Vampire?

 Dryaktylus wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
So apparently this guy is hitting the wild. And it's the same deal as the Catachan Colonel.

Oh, another limited Catachan model? Cool... I guess some day there're enough for a Kill Team.

Don't see enough of the dead guy. Is it a Wight King or a Vampire?

There are better pics a few pages back in this thread. He's like a weird hybrid of a Wight King upper half and a Nighthaunt lower half.

Edit : Page 54!

And whoever took the photo couldnt be bothered to pick up a box and take a couple close ups?

chaos0xomega wrote:
And whoever took the photo couldnt be bothered to pick up a box and take a couple close ups?

Because images of him have been around for a few months now: