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http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/apocalypse/book/default.htm.  Enjoy!

That table looks ridiculously crowded. It's a rush hour traffic jam of tanks.

It's a bit, ahem, small to read. I know they want to protect their IP, but it'd be nice to make out actual WORDS.

I guess it's a "target rich environment"...

To me as a mainly historical player, it looks a bit silly with everything rammed that close together. The kind of game that 10 year olds would play and think really cool, and it would be fun for them, but not my cup of tea.

However, I shall wait for the actual rulebook. Cities of Death was good.

I'm having trouble sleeping, I want to read the Apocalypse book so bad!

As soon as my advance copy arrives, I'm getting a 2 foot hoagie, and a 1/2 gallon of Starbucks finest, and hiding in the backroom for the rest of the day.

Oh look, the Tau logos actually mean something now. Good thing I didn't use them to mark individual suit squads. Worse, for some reason I actually care enough to have correct markings on my dudes.

Posted By Kilkrazy on 09/11/2007 4:14 AM
That table looks ridiculously crowded. It's a rush hour traffic jam of tanks.

Wow if I were 8 again and wanted to make a lot of "pew!" "pew!" noises that might be a fun game.

Posted By jfrazell on 09/12/2007 4:12 AM

Posted By Kilkrazy on 09/11/2007 4:14 AM
That table looks ridiculously crowded. It's a rush hour traffic jam of tanks.

Wow if I were 8 again and wanted to make a lot of "pew!" "pew!" noises that might be a fun game.

Oh come on now. I think we all know that the picture is set up to be visually exciting. I hardly think they are actually suggesting through that picture that your games should look like that, just that they could if you wanted them to using the Apocalypse rules.

I'd have to disagree Yakface. If the board is 8 by 4, this is what you will see. A 2,000 point game already crowds a board, much less a 4,000 point game.

And that picture looks like about 6k points per side, minimum. It's also crowded because it has some very killer terrain. Anyone would kill to have that board. Your correct though that 4000 pts crowds a 4x8. Maybe that's why they recommend playing on a 6x8 or 6x12 for that size of game.

 

I'm 35 and I still make "pew!" "pew!" noises when I play...

Some of us even make "pew!" "pew!" noises when we aren't playing.

Posted By yakface on 09/12/2007 5:06 AM

Oh come on now. I think we all know that the picture is set up to be visually exciting. I hardly think they are actually suggesting through that picture that your games should look like that, just that they could if you wanted them to using the Apocalypse rules.

Maybe it's like the "serving suggestion" phrase they put on labels of food containers.  They make you think you're getting a lot more than what's given.

Also pew pew lazer beems.

"And that picture looks like about 6k points per side, minimum."

It's a LOT worse than that... I had a glance through the book a couple of days ago. This is one of the four-page fold-out spreads, with a big picture on the inside of the fold-out and army lists, fluff and special rules on the outside of the fold-out.

20,000 points per side. The Chaos side includes Abaddon, all the other Chaos Special Characters and 9 (nine) Bloodthirsters. And a few hundred CSM.

We're going back into the days of Avalon Hill "Month Long Games" again.  Gotta make our tables out of steel and put magnets on the bottom of our minis so that when the weekend is over, you can put it up on the wall to get it out of the way.

Posted By stonefox on 09/12/2007 10:00 AM

Also pew pew lazer beems.

Incorrect. You use the "FREEEEM!" noise when making laser beam sounds. Has no one learned from the greatness of TSOALR

 

Edit: thats not a 4 by 6 board either. Look at the size of the titans.

hahahaha, because playing with lots of toys is more childish than playing with just some toys.....?

No matter how you slice it, we are grown men playing with toy soldiers, the damage is already done!

So hell yes im going to go pew pew, and bang bang, and dakkadakkadakka, and BOOM!! and make all kinds of stupid and silly noises with my toys that if any member of the opposite sex were to observe, i would turn bright red with embarrassment!

But that is half of the fun, isn't it? Getting to act like a kid? I think so.

I guess those guys who set up the whole battle of Waterloo, or and entire Normandy beach landing are much more childish than those just fighting the small unit actions...

We have been doing this since the early days. Drag a bunch of 4 x 8s together and set up the biggest battle you can. Been doing it as historicals, 40k, epic and LOTR (which was damn cool). Lately it's mostly the older crowd that even attempts to organize these things.

The big battle picture is actually represented many times over in the artwork of 40k.

I personally get giddy at the sight of such large armies crahing into each other. Yeah it will probably be a bit confusing and chaotic but then thats how they describe war in the books.