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I'm expecting some sort of ranged Plasma 5" or 7" blast and a 3" blast D weapon as those are the two obvious gaps.

Other option is being able to take two of one weapon, currently the Crusader only lets you take one of each of the gattling or melta/cannon, but I'd hope you'd be able to double up the gatling or cannon or melta.

I'm also hoping for AV14 on the front or a higher invulnerable save. I would guess that would push it over 500 points though.

Why the points hike? look at the stormsurge the Tau have. I could see similar rules for a knight heavy gun system. Brace fire no stomp if braced. storm is mc but300ish IRC can have 3 in squad. To make a knight more heavy I'd Av14/13/12 and ion flare shield standard. What would be a fair HP? I think to keep it out of titan turf 7max. As for weapons I like the plasma suggestions. Doesn't the fluff and old rules have Terex assault cannon arms? Perhaps a variant with that giant plasma mortar and tiny arms of spite?

Unless they are going to cut the points on the other Knights they can't have a better version costing the same unless they give it some sort of suitable downside like your brace idea, although I'd expect something with a more serious downside unless the D weapon was extra points on top of the other options.

I'd agree with 7 max, although I think it'll stay at 6. The Warhound only has 9, doesn't get the invulnerable while does get two void shields (I'd prefer the invulnerable) and is ~50% more expensive than the average Knight.

I suggested 7 since FW took that leap on their own with the atrapos. I think the loss of str D is pretty gnarly to a knight. Any thing big closes with it or little guys if he is braced would result in a can opening I think. As an added downside make him slow also suiting the point balance and keeping with rumored intended role. It seems like gw throw darts at a points chart. But if w look at str d as say a lascan and a half points cost that's still roughly 60pts on a low side. I based that off codex sm dev cost to get equivalent stats. Though 35 seems standard across codexs. So what would D be in pets cost?

 Kirasu wrote:
They could just make up a totally new weapon that has a name that is hard to pronounce.. IE every Volkite weapon

Volkite Destrucurioniteverin.

You do know that they didn't make up words like "caliver", "culverin" and "carronade" themselves, right? Serpenta is a bit more obscure, if they indeed took it from the third-person singular past historic of the French verb "serpenter", but that one they might have just thought sounded cool.

The Headhunters look really cool. Plus the brass etch with the stencil in the frame is a great idea.

 Kirasu wrote:
They could just make up a totally new weapon that has a name that is hard to pronounce.. IE every Volkite weapon

Volkite Destrucurioniteverin.

How about we leave that kynd of stuff for AoS exclusively?

Maybe those Alpha Legion Combi-Bolters are actually combi-plasma in disguise.......

 Theophony wrote:
Maybe those Alpha Legion Combi-Bolters are actually combi-plasma in disguise.......

I don't see any moustaches modelled onto it or attached like purity seals which would indicate a WYSIWIG disguise.

 warboss wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
Maybe those Alpha Legion Combi-Bolters are actually combi-plasma in disguise.......

I don't see any moustaches modelled onto it or attached like purity seals which would indicate a WYSIWIG disguise.

THe Alpha Legion using stick-on moustaches as purity seals is an idea I won't be able to unthink. Thankyou for that :p

The extra barrel is actually a decoy to distract the enemy. The question is: which barrel?

So are Alpha Legion armies never WYSIWYG?

I remember someone saying at the last forge world event that fw wanted to update the Legion campaign rules book. With it unavailable dose this mean it's getting a update soon?

I know a lot of people coming late into the HH gravy train and are upset they can't get a book atm

I'm more annoyed that there will be a newer version when I got the gaming bundle not that long ago.

I'm the same way...
Part of me hopes they've updated some of the Word Bearer stuff and added the changes/new things from HH5 but the other part of me doesn't as I don't want a really good reason to purchase it instead of more models.

ThirstySpaceMan wrote:I suggested 7 since FW took that leap on their own with the atrapos. I think the loss of str D is pretty gnarly to a knight. Any thing big closes with it or little guys if he is braced would result in a can opening I think. As an added downside make him slow also suiting the point balance and keeping with rumored intended role. It seems like gw throw darts at a points chart. But if w look at str d as say a lascan and a half points cost that's still roughly 60pts on a low side. I based that off codex sm dev cost to get equivalent stats. Though 35 seems standard across codexs. So what would D be in pets cost?

I hadn't looked at the rules for the Atrapos as mine is still in its box waiting its turn to get built and painted. Looking at those rules I could see the heavier knights costing around the same, although I still think a longer ranged D weapon should cost more, at least 50 points an arm as the Knight would be encroaching on the bigger Warhound.

BrookM wrote:I'm more annoyed that there will be a newer version when I got the gaming bundle not that long ago.

I'm annoyed if they don't offer it in the same faux leather binding as the limited edition as it'll throw out my 1 to 3 boxset. I don't like keeping older books as I run low on shelf space for them.

I see that the Deimos Pattern Rhino are currently sold out...is this a temporary thing or are they gone for good?

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
I see that the Deimos Pattern Rhino are currently sold out...is this a temporary thing or are they gone for good?

I would guess they're re-doing the moulds. Some people think they're discontinuing it and I'll come out in plastic, but you can still get MK IV in resin...

Atia on B&C said it's for repackaging and assigning a new stock number.

Saw the Raven Guard "Darkwing Assault" bundle and it got my interest.

Can someone explain to me what the difference between a Storm Eagle and a Stormraven is? Can Storm Eagles be used in 40k?

A storm eagle can't carry a dread and instead can carry more troops , and has a missile launcher on the roof instead of the dingy little turret the storm raven has.
The special Raven Guard one has large blast missiles under the wings instead of anti tank ones, has stealth and outflank ...

 Kanluwen wrote:
Saw the Raven Guard "Darkwing Assault" bundle and it got my interest.

Can someone explain to me what the difference between a Storm Eagle and a Stormraven is? Can Storm Eagles be used in 40k?

Yup, I converted one out of my extended cab chapterhouse storm raven. The usual caveats about FW rules ask only blah blah apply but it's 40k as well. By now it's probably been in multiple books.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Can Storm Eagles be used in 40k?

Aye chap, this book is what you need:



40k Marines get two versions of the Storm Eagle - standard and Roc pattern. I can't remember the Roc pattern - not near the book at the moment.

Errrm, did I miss a trick here. Those newish Raven Guard scouts are 50 sterling for 5.
Adding in xchange rates and shipping thats €70
Gotta be a typo no?

Nope, sadly not.

It's why if I get any, it is going to be specifically for a Sternguard squad.

Ouch so. I know FW usually price a bit higher but in terms of € to ingame points cost and general feeling of "5 for 70 quid?!" thats rough.

According to google, 50 gbp is 66 euro. If FW charges you extra 15%, that's 76 euros.
At least euro is getting stronger compared to gbp. Slowly.

it's odd that the jump pack dudes are £12 cheaper.

New bundles, decals and whatnot up: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/New

Isstvan Trilogy (limited offer)



Conquest + Knight



Conquest + Solar Auxilia



Death Guard decals



Iron Hand decals



Salamanders decals



Night Lords etched brass



House Makabius decals



And the most important release of them all, Solar Auxilia decals

They missed a trick not adding in the Solar Aux. transfers in the Solar Aux. bundle.