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Hatemonger wrote:

 Eilif wrote:

beast_gts wrote:

DON'T SUPERGLUE HARD PLASTIC MODELS!

Our Hard Plastic Solvent is designed specifically for our plastic (High Impact Polystyrene or HIPS). Whereas superglue just "sticks" two parts together and is prone to come apart under duress, solvent literally fuses the two pieces together. The applicator brush is also great to smooth over the join lines between parts (for example where the arm meets the shoulder). For best results, start with our Hard Plastic Clippers and Hard Plastic Nano Files to expertly prep your models for painting.
30ml bottle with precision brush applicator.

https://wargamesatlantic.com/collections/hobby-tools/products/hard-plastic-solvent

No Product Safety Data Sheet (SDS) or similar, and still no idea if it's their own or a rebrand.

99% sure it's a rebrand. I assume that production of semi-hazardous chemicals is not something you just do casually.

I do like the pointy tip though. I just refill my Plastruct Plastic-Weld bottles with MEK (the active ingredient in many solvent plastic glues). Much cheaper and works fine, but the brush isn't tapered.

Where do you get your MEK from? Long ago, it was just on shelves in Home Depot etc with the paint thinners and such, but in recent years that seems to have changed. Now all I can find are substitutes.

- H8

Methylene ketone is bad....didn't you know??? Im being facetious. It's bad so ergo production is regulated/taxed to death

Racerguy180 wrote:

Hatemonger wrote:

 Eilif wrote:

beast_gts wrote:

DON'T SUPERGLUE HARD PLASTIC MODELS!

Our Hard Plastic Solvent is designed specifically for our plastic (High Impact Polystyrene or HIPS). Whereas superglue just "sticks" two parts together and is prone to come apart under duress, solvent literally fuses the two pieces together. The applicator brush is also great to smooth over the join lines between parts (for example where the arm meets the shoulder). For best results, start with our Hard Plastic Clippers and Hard Plastic Nano Files to expertly prep your models for painting.
30ml bottle with precision brush applicator.

https://wargamesatlantic.com/collections/hobby-tools/products/hard-plastic-solvent

No Product Safety Data Sheet (SDS) or similar, and still no idea if it's their own or a rebrand.

99% sure it's a rebrand. I assume that production of semi-hazardous chemicals is not something you just do casually.

I do like the pointy tip though. I just refill my Plastruct Plastic-Weld bottles with MEK (the active ingredient in many solvent plastic glues). Much cheaper and works fine, but the brush isn't tapered.

Where do you get your MEK from? Long ago, it was just on shelves in Home Depot etc with the paint thinners and such, but in recent years that seems to have changed. Now all I can find are substitutes.

- H8

Methylene ketone is bad....didn't you know??? Im being facetious. It's bad so ergo production is regulated/taxed to death

Fun fact: MEK is a compund that's often used to denature alcohol, to make sure that people won't drink it. Replacing methanol because that didn't quite work on alcoholics.

Don't Get me wrong, MEK is nasty stuff and not to be taken lightly, but it's not much worse than the glue's (technically solvents) that it is the main active ingredient in.

You do sometimes have to use a bit more MEK than model adhesive/solvent as MEK evaporates really quickly. However if you consider that 32 oz of MEK at the hardware store costs the same ($9.99) as 1 oz of Plastic Model Solvent, the value proposition is pretty clear. You can refill your solvent bottles forever and have more than enough to strip paint from those extra-stubborn Metal Miniatures.

Thanks all, but I'm well aware of what MEK is. You're correct in that I wouldn't recommend it lightly to your average hobbyist, but I am familiar with it. I just don't have any easy source any more.

 Eilif wrote:
Don't Get me wrong, MEK is nasty stuff and not to be taken lightly, but it's not much worse than the glue's (technically solvents) that it is the main active ingredient in.

You do sometimes have to use a bit more MEK than model adhesive/solvent as MEK evaporates really quickly. However if you consider that 32 oz of MEK at the hardware store costs the same ($9.99) as 1 oz of Plastic Model Solvent, the value proposition is pretty clear. You can refill your solvent bottles forever and have more than enough to strip paint from those extra-stubborn Metal Miniatures.

Right, so... back to my question: where do you get yours? If you don't feel good posting it, feel free to DM.

- H8

MEK is really hard to get where I am due to California EPA regulations. I've been using Scigrip Weld-on 3 for quite a few years after hearing that ILM modelmakers used it for scratchbuilds. Works great. It used to be half the price of Tamiya airbrush cleaner (which is just Tamiya Extra thin cement in a bigger bottle), but nowadays it's about the same price. You can get both Tamiya airbrush cleaner and Weld-on 3 from a number of online retailers, never had a problem getting either in CA.

I can't see myself ever paying $10 for a 30ml bottle of WGA rebranded cement. Same goes for their nano glass files, $15 for 2 files, or you can get a 6-piece set of glass nail files for under $10. WGA makes excellent plastic kits, but their hobby tools are expensive and uninspiring

The minutiae of plastic weld aside

Atlantic has, as they allege on facebook, commenced their Damned shipping in all zones.

Hatemonger wrote:
Thanks all, but I'm well aware of what MEK is. You're correct in that I wouldn't recommend it lightly to your average hobbyist, but I am familiar with it. I just don't have any easy source any more.


Right, so... back to my question: where do you get yours? If you don't feel good posting it, feel free to DM.

- H8

Sorry, I forgot to add that.
Menards
https://www.menards.com/main/paint/solvents-cleaners-removers/thinners-solvents/sunnyside-reg-methyl-ethyl-ketone-thinner/84732/p-1444444212743-c-19345.htm

Werkrobotwerk wrote:
My stuff arrived, motus is pretty cool. I think I'll build the second one with the platform instead.

I'd be very curious to see how this compares sizewise to a 40k Chimera or Taurox