Black Templars Horde 1750... Critique Plz.

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**theblklotus**

1750

Grimaldus
Marshal
Emp Chump Accept all Challenges

X19 Crusader squad pf/meltagun 10init 9Neo
X19 Crusader squad pf/meltagun 10init 9Neo

X10 Jump packers meltabombs/pf/X2 plasmapistols
X10 Jump packers meltabombs/pf/X2 plasmapistols
X10 Jump packers meltabombs/pf/X2 plasmapistols

This list will be fun as it has 71 LD10 dudes in it! And if you kill any they run at ya! So run up with the horde crusaders then crash home with the jumpers!

Pretty basic but I think fairly competitive.

**CaptKaruthors**

Interesting. The only downside to this list is that someone with a really shooty army can pick off one unit at a time, then move onto the next. Good blocking terrain will be a huge boost to this army.

Capt K

**theblklotus**

With this list, I feel I use the strength of the templars to maximum, bodies that run forward... it is not a top teir list, but it can be competitive is my feeling. With that said, any list that is a top tier list, I will really have to get crafty to pull a win... as I will be outmatched. A couple of good riteous zeals and I should be able to make a game of it as I will be in cc by round 2.

Cover is a must... I agree there. I really dont want to be fish in a barrel but I certainly could be if I am left in the open!

**Corpsman_of_Krieg**

Hmmm.

I like this list. If I had to start my BT over, I'd probably take 30 Assault Marines too. I agree with Karuthors, though - your ranged anti-tank is abysmal, and a mobile army is going to be able to match the speed of your Assault Marines while wearing them down. Since they don't get RZ like the infantry, you'll be hard pressed to chase your opponent down, even with the 12" move.

Open fields are deathzones with this list. Avoid them at all costs.

Looks pretty good though. Definitely a very assaulty army list - the epitome of Black Templarness! What other army (beside IG and horde 'Nids, though they don't really exist any more) can field 71 models, let alone 71 MEQ models with Ld10?!

Good hunting.

CK

**theblklotus**

DOH!!! I did not see that I dont get RZ from the Jumppackers! DOH DOH DOH... well hmmm.

Somehow, I just feel the need to crash straight forward!!!!

**Corpsman_of_Krieg**

Just remember that even though you don't get RZ, you don't have to take an Ld Check every time you lose a model. BT Assault Marines follow normal 25% casualty cutoffs, which means you can afford to lose a few models before they attempt to run, which is unlikely at Ld10.

CK

**Orock**

Posted By Corpsman_of_Krieg on 10/30/2007 10:25 AM
Hmmm.

I like this list. If I had to start my BT over, I'd probably take 30 Assault Marines too. I agree with Karuthors, though - your ranged anti-tank is abysmal, and a mobile army is going to be able to match the speed of your Assault Marines while wearing them down. Since they don't get RZ like the infantry, you'll be hard pressed to chase your opponent down, even with the 12" move.

Open fields are deathzones with this list. Avoid them at all costs.

Looks pretty good though. Definitely a very assaulty army list - the epitome of Black Templarness! What other army (beside IG and horde 'Nids, though they don't really exist any more) can field 71 models, let alone 71 MEQ models with Ld10?!

Good hunting.

CK

My ork army list I wrote up today fields 167 orks...they would like nothing better than there 2 wounds a turn from shooting compel you to come toward em

**Corpsman_of_Krieg**

If I see an Ork army across the table from me, I lick my chops and grin.

The greenskins may have numerical superiority, but my "Accept Any Challenge" Marines will tear up three times their number in close combat with such foes. S3 attacks are even less threatening with the loss of the Choppa.

I've never had a game against an Ork opponent that I didn't enjoy. Not only do my short ranged guns get to kill some models before charging, but I can outshoot him! Me, a Black Templars player, outshooting another army!

The cherry on top is the fact that they WANT to get into close combat with me. Yes please.

That said, the new Codex should provide some interesting changes. Personally, I'm looking forward to it, as is my Ork opponent.

CK