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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/17 22:14:31
Subject: 1700 Chaos
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Regular Dakkanaut
Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
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This list is more built upon modeling opportunities rather than effectiveness, but I would like it not to get smashed when I play. There a few things I really want with the list, one being no vehicles or bikes. I realize this creates mobility problems, so I have included the dual Lash HQs to help. I also would like to keep at least 4 Obliterators, and at least one units of daemons (despite their not so great strategic value). I also would like to have some termies in there, but could be talked out of them. On to the list I have:
HQ1 - DP + MoS + Lash of Submission + Wings + Personal Icon = 160
HQ2 - Sorceror + MoS + Mount + Lash of Submission + Personal Icon = 160
E1 - 6 Terminators + Champ w/ Lightning Claws + Reaper + Chainfist + 3 Combi-Bolters = 270
T1 - 10 CSM + Lascannon + Plasma + Icon of Chaos Grace = 185
T2 - 10 CSM + Missle Launcher + Plasma + Icon of Chaos Grace = 175
~T3 - 14 Lesser Daemon = 182
FA1 - 6 Raptors + Champ w/ Lightning Claws + 2 Plasma Pistols + Icon of Khorne = 220
HS1 - 2 Obliterators = 150
HS2 - 2 Obliterators = 150
52 models and I have still 48 points left.
Any C&C would be welcome - thanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/18 10:41:39
Subject: 1700 Chaos
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I dont know about your modeling opportunities.....but here we go...
I would pick two lash deamon Princes with wings...together the got a lot of punch...The sorcerer doenst count for VP... You could get a sorcerer-terminator with Lash and attach it to the terminators...this is great for plasma rapid fire. (Deepstrike-Lash them within 12 inch).
Terminators are good...but I would rather pick a mark of slaanesh instead of the extra lighting claws..let all power weapons strike with I5... Then I would give the champion the chainfist because he got an extra attack. When facing a vehicle in CC its better to have 3 attacks instead of 2.This way you got more chance to hit a moving vehicle.
Lesser deamons: well you said it yourself...
Raptors are not bad...but its only six of them. I would keep them simple and use them to tie up enemy units. you got terminators,deamon prince(s),even Obliterators to counter charge if neccesery. for 220 points you can have 11 raptors...think about it.
If you got Heavysupport slots open then divide your obliterators (2obl+1obl+1obl).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/19 23:34:03
Subject: Re:1700 Chaos
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Regular Dakkanaut
Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Alternately:
HQ1 - DP + Wings + Warptime = 155
HQ2 - Sorceror + Termie Armour + Doombolt + Personal Icon = 125
E1 - 8 Chosen + 2 Plasma Gun + Champ w/ PF + Icon of Chaos Grace (IoCG) = 220
E2 - 6 Termies + Reaper + Chain Fist + Lightning Claws = 230
T1 - 6 CSM + Plasma + IoCG = 115
T2 - 6 CSM + Plasma + IoCG = 115
D1 - 10 Daemon = 130
D2 - 8 Daemon = 104
FA1 - 6 Raptors + Champ w/LC + 2 Melta + IoCG = 190
HS1 - 2 Obliterators = 150
HS2 - 2 Obliterators = 150
1693 points, 56 models.
How about this one?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/20 07:45:32
Subject: Re:1700 Chaos
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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The tacticals should be able to deliver the Daemons close to the enemy front ranks.
Therefore, I'd mount them into Rhinos.
Termies would benefit from combi-plasmas. Drop the lightning claws as they better should keep the enemy at arm's length.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/20 12:29:50
Subject: Re:1700 Chaos
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Regular Dakkanaut
Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
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I realize Rhinos would benefit the daemon summoning, but in my original post I mentioned that I would not be using any vehicles with this list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/11/20 13:17:13
Subject: Re:1700 Chaos
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Yeah, but then only infiltrating Chosen, deep striking Termies, and Raptors can deliver them close to the front ranks of a shooty opponent.
The Chosen might get shot to bits in round 1 (or 2 if the opponents has 1st turn), the Termies can summon the Daemons in round n+1 if they appear in round n, n>=2, and Raptors also need to be close enough in round 1. It might work.
Finally, the two 6 men CSM squads are just there to fill the troop slots but they are not really effective.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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