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I saw it and I liked it. Everyone behaved intelligently and logically for their characters. The assassins teetered on being over the top with their guessing abilities and that would be my only complaint.
Woo-hoo! I'll use the spoiler tool. Highlight the area below to read spoiler heavy text if you've already seen the movie:
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So, how close is the plot of the movie to the book? Does it end in essentially the same way: with Tommy Lee Jones miserable in having failed in his attampt to save Josh Brolin and the killer alive and well?
I loved the movie but it seemed like it was purposely made in a style to infuriate the audience. I've always wanted to make a movie that does that (just because you get so used to mainstream movies always doing the same things) but this movie really did seem to pile it on. From not even getting to see the protaganist meet his end after all the emotional care we put into him to Tommy Lee Jones giving up depressed and beaten to the killer killing the wife and then *almost* getting killed in a car accident only to walk away from the authorities yet again.
Everything I wanted to happen in the movie as a human being (the protaganist to prevail and live happily ever after with his wife, for Tommy Lee Jones to kill the killer) didn't happen and it seemed like they wanted to rub it in your face. Even the abrubt depressing end seemed to really hammer this point home.
I love the audacity of the Cohen bros to make such a movie, but it really was tough to sit through the end.
One question for you all: When Tommy Lee Jones shows up at the hotel at the end they show the killer is inside waiting for him, where does he go? Did he escape out the bathroom window or did I miss something?
ok, well here's a spoileriffic response - spoils maybe alittle of the book too if you've seen the movie and plan on later reading the book (no specifics, just "this or that is different".
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plot is almost exact - minor changes for brevity sake, such as lewllyn's trip to el paso being cut completely out, and Chigurh's motivation is slightly altered but not in a way that matters for the effect of the story. Ends essentially the same way. In the book it is more obvious that the sherrif is the main character, as he is the narrator of stories (similar to ones he tells in the movie) between chapters.
I don't feel it was made in a style to infuriate the audience, as it follows the book, down to the way they show lewellyn's death, with the sherrif coming up on the hotel and everyone dead. Now...the book may have been made to infuriate the audience, and in some ways it did, but I think it is more to emphasize how quickly these things go bad/end, and to emphasize that whatever the reader/audience wanted, lwellyn wasn't going to make it...it just doesn't work that way. Cormac McCarthy (the author) doesn't write very happy books.
I had some trouble with the scene where Sherrif Ed Tom goes back to the hotel as well - where is Chigurgh hiding? I need to watch it again - they show Chigurgh so quickly it's hard to tell. I'd say he's in the closet in the front, or in the room next door - I don't think it's something like he jumped out the window or he was behind the door and Ed Tom looked at him and then left, which some people seem to think. I don't have a copy of the book to check how it happened in the book.
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I don't know that I'm going to purchase the DVD, I'm not going to say that I loved it, but I think that I was almost blown away.
Even if the plot is a bit of a downer, and it feels like there's no real denouement or whatever, once you figure out the basic theme, you realize why, although we want one desperately, we don't need one.
I loved the landscapes. I loved the sounds effects or whatever you people in the biz call them. Lewellyn crossing those windswept barren plains and listening to the sand and rock crunch under his cowboy boots? Priceless.
I'm planning on seeing it again sometime this week. I think I might profit by a second go-around.
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You feel they were trying to 'rub it in' because even though you thought you wanted to see a movie where the main character fails and the bad guys win, you really didn't. The first time I ever saw a anti-climatic ending (Holy Grail I'm afraid) I was actually quite upset. This is after I professed to having wanted to see something like that happen for years. But when it actually did, I felt robbed.
I don't think Anton is walking away scott-free at the end. He has a compound fracture and no transportation. Maybe his stuff was in the car. Even if he has a hideout blocks away (very doubtful) he's not going to make it with half his radius/ulna bone sticking out of his arm. It ends without showing any definite resolution with him, but I don't think he's going to get to far.
I wondered where he was hiding to. I thought it was in the room nextdoor. That would have made the most sense.
I liked the movie for the realistic way it was portrayed. There wasn't to much superhero action or unbelievable sequences except for one. Anton did seem to 'guess' every move to accurately and I can't figure out how he gets to that skyscraper in (Dallas?), up to the 13th floor with a shotgun and air tank and then gets out without being detected. That was the only thing that was to far fetched.
This was one of the best movies that I have ever seen in my life. Javier Bardem plays the best villian that I have EVER seen. He deserves an oscar for his performance. I cant remember ever watching movie and HATING the bad guy that much. That being said, Tommy lee does an outstanding job as well. He also deserves at least a nomination. Everything about this movie is fantastic and realistic. Awsome!!!
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This was great. Gorgeous cinematography. Really outstanding performances and writing. Tommy Lee Jones couldnt have been better, and Im not his biggest fan. Javer Bardem has always been good (my prior exposures have mostly been Aldomovar films), but he was genuinely great in this. I enjoyed Josh Brolin in Planet Terror, but this performance was just on another level.
The way each of the leading actors (and Ill include Kelly McDonald too, who is gorram hot, BTW) handled their performances, particularly the dialogue; the loving attention to and impeccable delivery of virtually every line, made me a very happy movie/word nerd.
I was initially not in love with the last quarter/third of the film; like most of us, Im usually more comfortable with a more traditional narrative. That said, on reflection, it absolutely makes sense, and the film really did build toward it. I watched it with my brother, who said he thought it was even better than Fargo. I dont know if I can agree with that, but it was pretty darn awesome.
BTW- Requiem for a Dream is one of my top movies of all time. It is dark as hell; definitely more brutal than No Country, but theyre utterly different films.
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Requiem for a Dream is probably the only movie that I actually cried while watching. That's kind of hard for me to say 'cause I'm so macho.
No Country is a real bummer of a movie. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that this movie is like giving a bottle of pills and a straight razor to a suicidal person. I'm positive if they ever make a film version of Cormac McCarthy's The Road they'll hand out pistols when you buy tickets.
Javier Bardem's Chigurh is more awesome than a man-train consisting of Chuck Norris, Leonidas and Die Hard, however.
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The way I remember it, Bardem was simply behind the door after the Sheriff opened it. That's what made it extra creepy. While watchin' it, I didn't think Tom was going to make it out of the hotel room alive. I think the character realized this, knew he was on death's door, and that's why he stops investigating and walks out.
Of course, I may have this totally wrong as it's been over a month since I've seen the movie.
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Jester wrote:No Country is a real bummer of a movie. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that this movie is like giving a bottle of pills and a straight razor to a suicidal person. I'm positive if they ever make a film version of Cormac McCarthy's The Road they'll hand out pistols when you buy tickets.
If you think this is depressing go rent House of Sand and Fog.
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This was a Western Noir no doubt. It might have ended badly for Moss and his wife, but he invited it onto himself and had several chances to do something different but chose the worse. No sin goes unpunished in Noir. I did not really see it as a downer ending. It was sad for the wife, but it was more about the reality of and persistence evil, not in a mythological or biblical sense, but in the day-to-day world that doesn't always get caught or punished. I think him getting hit at the end was more about fate showing Chigurh what a real quirk was, not his coin tossing. Anyone else notice they kept showing the Rams head on the car Chigurh was driving? Hmmm. In the book it is more obvious that the Sheriff is the narrator so it is not as much of a shock when Moss buys it. I also recall the wife calling the toss and being wrong, though most of the dialogue in that scene was there. It is also shown that the reason Chigurh is caught at the beginning by the police is a becuase he wants to be , to see if he can get out of the situation.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
I've seen it twice more now, bringing my total to three times.
I can honestly say that I thought the film was better the 2nd and 3rd times. Once the ending "happens" and you figure out the main theme(s), you can look for them throughout the film and watch them develop. "Oh, I never noticed image A or symbol B before because at this point in the movie I wasn't aware of theme Q the first time I watched it."
No matter how good your memory is, you can always pick out something you didn't see the time before.
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