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2007/12/03 02:29:01
Subject: 2500 Eldar army list.
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Rampaging Chaos Russ Driver
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This is my first time posting on this particular 40k site, you guys came up after quite a few google searches for the ard boyz and wanted to get any strategy advice for my eldar for the upcoming ard boyz detroit. This army is pretty much final in that I spent all my money buying it so i cant change many units out.
Autarch-140
jet bike, fusion gun, laser lance, mandiblasters.
Eldrad-210
6 fire dragons-full-136
Exarch with fire pike, tank hunter
6 fire dragons-full-136
Exarch with fire pike, tank hunter.
5 Scorpions-stalker-112
Exarch with scorpions claw, stalker
10 Dire avengers-162
Exarch with defend, power weapon, shimmershield
1 Wave serpent-190
Twin linked bright lances, vectored engines, star engines, spirit stones, shuriken cannon.
7 Dire avengers-152
Exarch with two shuriken catapults, blade storm.
3 jet bikes-76
1 shuriken cannon
3 jet bikes-76
1 shuriken cannon
5 warp spiders-152
Exarch with withdraw, additional death spinner and powerblades.
5 warp spiders-152
Exarch with withdraw, additional death spinner and powerblades.
Vyper squadron-150
Bright lances.
3 super falcons-690
Starcannon, shuriken cannon, vectored engines, star engines, holo fields, spirit stones.
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Basically i work this army around the concept of driving a steak in the enemies heart. By crippling 1 point in 1 turn i can hopefully break the back of just about any opponent. I try not to design a strategy around more then a concept because of the variety of missions and opponents you can and will end up playing against. Any advice will be appreciated.
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2007/12/05 16:59:54
Subject: Re:2500 Eldar army list.
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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I'd mount Harlies in the 3rd Falcon, dropping the Scorpions.
Small DA squads are a waste of points.
As your army is almost fully mobile, I'd drop Eldrad and take a Doomseer on a jetbike.
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Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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2007/12/05 17:15:11
Subject: Re:2500 Eldar army list.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Cherry Hill, NJ
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Harlies are much better than Scorpions is any way you look at it.
Also I have never seen warp spiders be effective in any game that I have watched or played in. they tend to never make up their points when it comes to anything with a 3+ armor or T6.
Drop the Spiders in favor of getting 3 units of 1 Viper and bumping the Dire Avenger squads to 10 Man with Shimmer Shield and Blade Storm in both Squads.
If you have more points get some more Bikes in there to help against light armor.
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2007/12/05 17:37:58
Subject: Re:2500 Eldar army list.
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Executing Exarch
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I have to disagree regarding the Spiders. My own experience has shown them to be useful, and I haven't yet seen a non-experience-based argument for why they're no good.
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2007/12/06 04:21:35
Subject: Re:2500 Eldar army list.
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Defending Guardian Defender
Australia
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I would recommend dropping the Exarch's from the Fire Dragons or short of that you really won't need the Firepike and I have found Tank Hunters overkill with them. I am assuming they are in two of the Falcons though. If they don't pop that tank in a round of shooting with those Fusion guns something bad has happened and you will probably see them vanish in the enemy's turn.
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Countless Eldar lives lost in the constant search for Cake and Treasure. |
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2007/12/06 07:54:51
Subject: 2500 Eldar army list.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Eidolon wrote:
Autarch-140
jet bike, fusion gun, laser lance, mandiblasters.
He has no supporting unit. In close combat, after you kill 2 marines, they pummel you to death.
He needs a supporting unit, or he is no good.
I'd drop the fusion gun. It's amazing how many 1's BS5 characters roll.
Eidolon wrote:
Eldrad-210
Alot of people love him.
I love seeing him. A cheap farseer on a bike is as effective at stopping attacks, and you can guide or fortune whatever you need to.
His mass psychic powers isn't really very scary.
Eidolon wrote:
6 fire dragons-full-136
Exarch with fire pike, tank hunter
6 fire dragons-full-136
Exarch with fire pike, tank hunter.
Only time you should run a exarch is with the dragons breath flamer so the fire dragons can take a chunk out of hordes.
Otherwise, just run 5 or 6 regular Fire Dragons, they don't need an Exarch to pop tanks or kill terminators.
Eidolon wrote:
5 Scorpions-stalker-112
Exarch with scorpions claw, stalker
These guys are as far from uber as they can be these days.
Replace with FD or if you must, Harlies.
Eidolon wrote:
10 Dire avengers-162
Exarch with defend, power weapon, shimmershield
Replace. Dire Avengers are not a close combat unit, nor will they see CC.
They get out, they shoot alot, they get shot at and die.
I think they need replacing entirely but YMMV, DA just don't cut it.
Eidolon wrote:
1 Wave serpent-190
Twin linked bright lances, vectored engines, star engines, spirit stones, shuriken cannon.
Strip VE and SE. A 200 point unit that dies to a glance 6 like everyone else...just don't bother with all the extra goodies, WS aren't really very good.
Eidolon wrote:
7 Dire avengers-152
Exarch with two shuriken catapults, blade storm.
Uhhh if you gotta run these, run them in this config but if they aren't in a transport--they'll do absolutely nothing for you.
Guardians with Scatter lasers are as good as DA.
Eidolon wrote:
3 jet bikes-76
1 shuriken cannon
3 jet bikes-76
1 shuriken cannon
Excellent units. Get experience with handling them.
Eidolon wrote:
5 warp spiders-152
Exarch with withdraw, additional death spinner and powerblades.
5 warp spiders-152
Exarch with withdraw, additional death spinner and powerblades.
Warp Spiders aren't really good because despite having a 24" move/shoot then a withdraw move....they are vulnerable to vehicles and long range weapons fire. If you don't get a good roll on your warp move, you get shot up. Despite having S6 weapons, there are better eldar units that are more survivable that can pump out larger numbers of S6 shots.
Eidolon wrote:
Vyper squadron-150
Bright lances.
Try Scatter Laser/Shuriken Cannon instead. BL don't really do alot without a re-roll. Putting Eldrad on the table to guide everyone is fine, but I'd rather have a Vyper unit able to operate where it's best for it tactically, than wherever you deploy Eldrad. If you want TL BL, put them on WS and use those instead to hunt land raiders.
Eidolon wrote:
3 super falcons-690
Starcannon, shuriken cannon, vectored engines, star engines, holo fields, spirit stones.
I don't use star engines myself, but if you want to--why don't you count the number of times you use it in a game.
Then see if it's worth those points.
Eidolon wrote:
Basically i work this army around the concept of driving a steak in the enemies heart. By crippling 1 point in 1 turn i can hopefully break the back of just about any opponent. I try not to design a strategy around more then a concept because of the variety of missions and opponents you can and will end up playing against. Any advice will be appreciated.
Gotta make the army a bit better. This one isn't a contender currently. Just my 2 cents. No offense is intended.
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2007/12/13 05:35:23
Subject: 2500 Eldar army list.
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Rampaging Chaos Russ Driver
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Sorry for not replying, I scored mid rank in an ard boyz style tournament with this list. I dropped one squad of dragons and the scorpions and replaced both with squads of harlequins, dropped the walking avengers, added a jetbike to each squad.
I also replaced the 2 spider squads with 1 unit of 9. The 2 vypers with lances got replaced with 3 vypers with scatter lasers and shuriken cannons. Thanks for the assistance. Im going to another in a few weeks here and ill post the list for that one, hopefully much better then what I posted here.
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