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I think I am looking for an army that can pretty much walk across the board and not stop unitl it hits the other board edge. I heard that Bretonnians and dwarfs were good for this but that dwarfs won't actually get to the other side... A plastic army would be taken into consideration as well as the number of models in it. (I hate painting with a passion)

Ratbarf wrote:I think I am looking for an army that can pretty much walk across the board and not stop unitl it hits the other board edge. I heard that Bretonnians and dwarfs were good for this but that dwarfs won't actually get to the other side... A plastic army would be taken into consideration as well as the number of models in it. (I hate painting with a passion)

All Knight Bretts do that (lowish model count, of which big chunk is plastic). Ogres are other with similiar traits, altough gaming effectiveness-wise they aren't as good as Bretonnians.

Brets are great at heading straight upfield and crumpin'. It's not WALKING across the field, though. If the feel you want is an implacable wall of infantry coming across, you're better off with Dwarves using Anvil and Strollaz rune (http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/205364.page), or perhaps undead. You can build a dwarf army pretty cheap from plastics using the BfSP boxed set models, too. Undead are not too expensive and are easy to paint.

Orcs & Goblins and Skaven can also do aggressive infantry hordes, but it's a shedload of painting, and a lot of the units are fodder and flee & flank tactics are big, as opposed to Dwarves, where each unit is hard.

Most people I've seen looking for rock hard units with few models go for Chaos.

So what models would you take for a Chaos army that would be rock hard? I also heard that a Grimgor Ironhide army of hard and black boyz was tough as well.

For rock hard stuff chaos has excellent fighty characters, knights and chaos warriors (the two latter can be upgraded to chosen status for extra hittyness and improved armor save). Chaos has also an option for wielding variety of monster units such as minotaurs or dragon ogres, altough some of these can't be really considered rock hard. The gaming effectiveness of the whole bunch varies a lot ranging from bad (chaos warriors) to good (chosen knights), altough there's a variety of equipping options available (marks, magic banners) which can improve units. Only warriors are plastic, though, so if you wan't more of that, you need to convert stuff probably.

Regarding the orcs, there was a Storm of Chaos campaign elite orc list, but it was ment for the 6th edition orc armybook, so most people consider it outdated. Luckily you can build orc infantry army with elite feel from the current armybook too (Grimgor himself is one tough bugger, altough actually getting him into combats with a savvy opponent is a feat in itself).

Thanks everyone, I think I am going to go with an elitistish orc army. Grimgor for the win!