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Hello, first post at Dakka!

New to orks and am wondering if the new box with 10 models have totally different sprues than what was in the old box with 16 models

If in fact they are newly designed models than I was thinking, to add diversity to my new army, to pick up some of the old boxes if I can find them

Anyone help me out here?

Thanks

GG

They're the same models, with some new stuff added, IIRC.

It's Christmas day and I'm still on Dakka. What is wrong with me?

It's eleven orks (10+Nob) and a lot of extra stuff. You can see those frames here to make your own judgement.

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s312/His_Masters_Voice/P1010680.jpg

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s312/His_Masters_Voice/P1010679.jpg

fourganger88 wrote:They're the same models, with some new stuff added, IIRC.

It's Christmas day and I'm still on Dakka. What is wrong with me?

Nothing. I'm here too... oh, wait :S never mind.

Thanks for the picture!

Does the old style sprue have the ability to make nobs with power claws, like the new sprue does?

Thanks again.

GG

No, just 16 boyz with options for Sluggas or Shootas. No Nob parts, no klaw, no big shoota, no rokkit, no nothing. Just the boyz.

the old sprues are great for filling up big mobz, or for getting better value out of the new burnas/lootas (which have enough bits to make burnas _and_ lootas if you have a source of extra heads and tordos and legs) - but frankly I wouldn't bother with the old sprues unless you can get them cheap, the new sprues really do have so much extra cool stuff on them

A lot of people use the fantasy metal or plastic Orks, also, and it makes a nice mix. The plastic Black Orks make great 'Ard boyz, for example. All the extra guns you get in a 40K boyz plasic kit fit really well onto the fantasy plastic Orks, and the parts in both box sets are interchangeble.

Actually, no, black orks do not convert well. I bought a box thinking that they would be the basis of a flash-gitz unit, but they're unlike the normal 40k or fantasy boyz.

Their legs and bodies are not interchangable at all. Black ork legs go on black ork torsos, and that's it. And, what's worse, their arms are connected not at the shoulder, but about half-way down the bicep. It's a real pain in the ass to make 40k ork arms work on black ork bodies, or vice-versa. Not saying it cannot be done, but it's not a simple part swap.

If you want 'ard boyz that look like fantasy black orks with maybe a gun glued on somewhere, ok. If you want something that looks like it belongs in 40k with a reasonable amount of futuristic gubbins, stick with normal fantasy boyz for the swaps and avoid the black orks.

That said, to answer the original poster, I got the spearhead and made up the new sprues and they're amazing compared to the old ones. You get a couple of new heads, one extra choppa sculpt, one extra slugga sculpt, one extra shoota sculpt, one new legs sculpt, one new body sculpt, and the middle frame, which has the nob and 'eavy weapon guy parts, as well as a lot of neat little extras. And, if you don't make a nob, you can make 11 boyz.

The limiting factor is legs. You get 12 torsos (one nob, one backpack-enabled, 10 normal), plenty of heads, 10 choppa/slugga combos, 10 shootas/arm combos, and two 'eavy gun options.

Thanks for the help guys!

I think I am going to purchase a few of the old boxes (I have a source) just to have a bit more variety in my mobs.

GG

When I started an Ork army a view years ago, I bought some boxes of Ork Boyz, Stikk Bomba Boyz, Ard Boyz and Storm Boyz. I put the metal parts aside and cut up all plastics sprue and put all the plastics bitz in one big box. I also bought one or two fanasy Orc boxes and also cut up the sprues and put them in the same box. When I wanted a Slugga Boy I picked a random set of legs from the box and random a body, head, left arm and right arm. Sometime when the arms didn't match (i.e. 2 arms with pistols), I picked an other one of course.
When building mixed media Orks, I started by picking the metal parts first and the randomly picked the plastic parts I needed. So the fantasy parts ended up in the specialized Orks as well. As Ard Boyz can easily be made with just plastic parts, by using the more armoured bodies (some of the fantasy ones are perfect!) and stuff the jaw and shoulder pads, I decided to maximize the number of Ard Boyz. This was done by making some models as attended by GW with all the metal parts possible, some using only plastic parts and some mixed ones.
I ended up with very random looking Orks, with more variety than usual. Because I made far more models with sluggaz, fantasy Orcs carry their sword/axe/spear all left handed, but their 40K cousins are mostly right handed with their slugga. Only one off four 40K arms sets has its slugga in its left arm. I quickly ran out of right pistol arms, but that was solved by weapon swaps and fixing pistols to the otherwise useless shield arms.
As you will find out, Big Shootaz can be relative easily be made combining two shootaz. Adding the strips of ammo to these models also helps. I also made use one set of the single pose snap-fit Orks (http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=99120103008&orignav=10) for more variety. Their fantasy cousins (http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=99120209007&orignav=13) were remodelled as Ard Boyz, but cutting away the shield takes a long time, so I wouldn't recommend it. Drivers and gunners of the (old style) bikez, trukkz and trakkz also received a body, arms and head (and sometimes legs to) from the plastic Orc/k boyz to replace their thin GorkaMorka-style limbs. The left pistol arm with its pistol removed and the right fantasy shield arm are great as gunner arms.

I hope this long story is of any use...

Nice suggestions for all those starting orks. Plastic orks make for great conversions and mixing the fantasy in makes for a sharper looking ork horde.

Sounds really cool, Blackadder. Any chance you could post some photos?

Looking at the pictures, their are 5 regular boys on each sprue and one nob. Since their are two of each sprue, that is 12 boys. How could GW not have noticed.

How could GW miss this? I believe the boxes are $20 U.S. So now we get 12 for 20, instead of 16 for $35. Plus their are some way cooler bitz. It will be much harder now to resist buying......

I can't find the single-pose snap fit orks on the US website. Anyone know if they're available in the US? I wouldn't want an army of them, but a handful in squads might work.

Any more ideas what the 12 boyz box will cost?
20$ would be soo cool, 'cause it would be around 13.5 Euros here in europe
Almost one bug per boy^^
Well, i guess German taxes and GW would make either 17.50 or 20.00 euros out of it...

Ever wonder how this post is either News or Rumour?

FuzzyOrb, why don't you just check the online store? It's right there for you to see.

Soup_Nazi wrote:Looking at the pictures, their are 5 regular boys on each sprue and one nob. Since their are two of each sprue, that is 12 boys. How could GW not have noticed.

How could GW miss this? I believe the boxes are $20 U.S. So now we get 12 for 20, instead of 16 for $35. Plus their are some way cooler bitz. It will be much harder now to resist buying......

No it really are just 10 Orks and 1 Nob. The new boyz sprue is a three part sprue with both outside sprues mirrored. Those contain 5 boyz each. The central sprue contains the single Nob and most of the extra bits.

Blackmoor wrote:Ever wonder how this post is either News or Rumour?

Because it's a question about a unit which hasn't been released yet?

Mannahnin wrote:

Blackmoor wrote:Ever wonder how this post is either News or Rumour?

Because it's a question about a unit which hasn't been released yet?

Thank you Mannahmim. That's exactly why I posted it in this forum.

GG