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Hey, I was wondering if anyone who played both AT-43 and WH40k could weigh in on the compatibility of the AT-43 bunkers with the 40k scale? They look pretty nice, but before I go out and shell $40-$60 for 2-4 bunkers, I'd like to know they'd work well.

Thanks!

i think they'd work great. The AT-43 figs fit fine inside and it has a removeable top with a door even that is removable. I believe a space marine and a therian are about the same size (i think we even tested terminators inside, but I can't remember off hand). In short, yes I think they would work fine. I have one of the bunkers and don't see you running into any issues with it.

I would think they'd work. Just be prepared to proxy it with a GW bunker at the store

How many figs fit inside a bunker?

Syr: The benefit of the GW store near us is the copious
amounts of terrain they provide. And with the awesome
terrain kits GW has released recently, it's a lot of fun to
play at the store.

When I'm not playing Warmachine.

malfred wrote:How many figs fit inside a bunker?

I'ts decent size, Mal. You could easily fit a tac squad. I'm not sure how far over 10 models you could get. I might have to test that after work with mine and get back to you.

Nice.

What about those larger sized Warmachine bases?

I almost picked up a couple at GenCon, but decided to
just wait for the store release (and to see if I was still
interested in Karmans by that time).

as coincidence would have it, they just released bunker mission. Take a look at the pics in this couple page pdf. Should give you an idea of space since the UNA are on 30mm bases and they give a great top view of the bunker with the roof off:

http://www.confrontation.fr/newsletter/cry_online/img69/bunkerEN.pdf

Those soldiers would look great as guard with carapace armor, stormtroopers or Tau auxilary troops.

Check out Weetoysoldiers; AT-43 figs are actually quite a few mm taller than 40k figs (probably closer to 33-35mm than 28-32mm). OTOH, 40k figs would make great proxies in AT-43. Funny how that works, neh?

Does base size matter in AT-43?

I don't think there is a strict rule against a base size. When everything comes pre-based for you, I don't think it comes up that much. I know in Confrontation it seems to be, as people are swapping their square bases for the AT-43 style round bases as the new Con uses those bases also (though you can use your old square bases perfectly well still, thats a suggestion straight from the R employees).

malfred wrote:Does base size matter in AT-43?

as 2.0 said, when everything comes based for you, not really an issue.

But with the preponderance of people who not only wish to repaint their models, but more pleasingly rebase them as well, I think the original base size for the model should be adhered to.

The only real reasons for this (that I know of) is being able to maneuver on the battlefield and LOS. If you cannot fit your base between two pieces of terrain, the model simply may not pass through. This is also tactical, as you want areas where infantry may freely pass, but disallow vehicle egress or access. Then of course, there is the issue of LOS to be considered as well, as it mainly uses the idea that if you can see more than half of the target's base, then you can see the target.

So for the above reasons alone, I feel it warrants keeping the base size your model came with to be consistent.

But then again, I am not such a nazi about it either. Unless your trying to make a size5 *** armoured fighting vehicle (the largest known vehicles for the game) be placed on a 30mm base, (an obvious abuse) I dont really feel a need to comment on it.

In the case of proxied models, a close approximation of base size would be ideal. IMO

[edit] Damned spelling...

Played the bunker mission earlier today. Its a really great mission with some good replay value. I think it was fairly balanced to work with. Half of the defenders arent on the board, and its really difficult to crack the bunker nut, so to speak.

My only saving grace for winning was two created hekats that were able to move some blocks so that the rest of the therians could pour through the breach. Otherwise, I think I would have been slaughtered handedly.

Here is some proof that the bunkers will work just fine for 40K if not better than it does for AT-43.

Yay pics!

Thanks hellfury.