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1. The BT unit may not be within 1" of any unit they were not assaulting during the original assault move Pg 37, BGB).

2. This means they had to be MORE than 1" away from the second unit. Therefor he could not legally consolidate into the second unit.

Within means base edge to base edge is the specified distance or less.

Well heck, why stop there, hey you're only half an inch out of range, take the shot. Awww, you're almost close enough to the objective, only an inch away, sure, you control it.

Point is, what his opponent did was illegal, he ignored the fact that he cannot be within an inch of models he's not assaulting and then forced the issue to get his way. Over an inch away means you're over an inch away, even if the difference is only "0.0001 inches". Bottom line, his opponent cheated. And I don't condone cheating. Do you?

Green Blow Fly wrote:Don Mondo we only know what were the initial and final conditions. It is possible other events may have occurred during the game that brought the other guard units within less than one inch of the BT Crusader squad prior to the massacre.

- G

There are no conditions I'm aware of that would allow that to occur. Enlighten me if you can think of some. But based on the OPs original post, the BT player cheated by ignoring the rule that he cannot move within an inch of a model he's not assaulting. Bottom line, if you roll a 1 for your Massacre result, you are NOT going to be able to contact another enemy unit because you are not allowed to be close enough to do so.

Green Blow Fly wrote:Consider this... there are certain conditions that allow one unit to move to within one inch or less than an enemy unit. The most obvious case is when you assault a vehicle. If the vehicle is undamaged the charging enemy unit is not locked and will remain in base contact with the vehicle after the assault. Also whenever there exists a state such that a measurement is very close my position is to give it to my opponent. It is certainly possible some models could accidentally be moved closer than one inch during the course of a game. IMO it is not worth making a big deal out of and start asking people if they cheat. FJO

- G

Sure, I'll give an opponent that fraction of an inch.... when he can legally make that particular move!! So no 24.0001 first turn charges, no 1.001 consolidations, etc etc. In this case, there was no legal way for it to occur. And regarding the vehicle, Wow, moving within an inch of a unit you're assaulting, doesn't break the rules, does it? In other words, that does NOT address the question at hand and so is irrelevant. Now, can you show me something that allows you to move within an inch of a unit you are NOT assaulting? Which is what the BT player supposedly did....?? Didn't think so.......FYI, the studio recommends that after you attack it, you move to just over an inch away once the attacks are resolved.

The Green Git wrote:It really does depend on the wording of the rule. If you say you cannot be within 1" then you can be at exactly one inch and not be within. Does "within 1 inch" mean <1 or <=1? That is the question.

As the OP says, the consolidation did create the same effect as if the opponent had split the charge among the two units. In that case it's a moot argument since the end result was the same.

My personal take is that "within 1 inch" means less than, not less than or equal to.

Sorry, but your personal take is wrong. This is clearly defined in the rulebook, if base edge to base edge is less than or equal to 1", you are within an inch. And you cannot be within an inch of a unit you are not assaulting. There are examples all throughout the rulebook showing that base edge to base edge at whatever distance equals "within" that distance.

Green Blow Fly wrote:

no 24.0001 first turn charges, no 1.001...

Don Mondo you tell me how to measure 0.001 to 0.0001 on a table and I will be impressed... otherwise I will just continue to consider you the jackass you have always been around here.

- G

Well, if necessary, you get out your micrometer and magnification loupe, put it on a light table, and measure it. Or these days, let the computer do it for you, hard part is clicking on the right spots, but that's what magnification is for. Many are able measure to that degree in their line of work. Mine is Imagery Analyst.

Point is, you don't need to be able to measure it to know that it's illegal. And if it's illegal and you KNOW it's illegal, then it's cheating, pure and simple.

Green Blow Fly wrote:So Don you are saying you think people should be able to measure within 0.0001 inches under live game conditions? Maybe the interpretation of one inch for this particular rule is cut and dry but there are many other cases when it is not but can have a huge impact. If someone told me that they can measure to within 0.0001 inches on the gaming table I would laugh in their face.

- G

Nope, that's your hangup. All I am saying is that if it's a physical impossibility under the rules, then I don't even have to measure because it's illegal. And since you cannot move within an inch of a model you are not assaulting, then if you roll a 1 on a Massacre result, you are unable to contact any enemy models since you must be, by the rules, over an inch away, no matter how small that bit over an inch is.