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I picked up a Loota/Burna box today and happily opened it up, unknown to me that my mind would be soon riddled with all kinds of confusion due to GW (which wouldn't be the first time). What is with the Big Shoota and the Rokkit Launcha they put in the box set? It even comes with the Big Shoota backpack and even the little grot head, but without at least the left arms for those weapons, they become basically useless in any traditional sense. I understand that converting them to work is all well and good, but why put them in the damn box if you aren't going to support the use of them completely?

hmm...I didn't notice that the arms were missing. interesting.

they're options for the mek, so you should just use the left arm that goes with the custom mega blaster...
would've been nice if they'd made an arm for each one...
b*stards...

cheers
jah

jah-joshua wrote:they're options for the mek, so you should just use the left arm that goes with the custom mega blaster...

That doesn't work. The Mek's left arm is the one holding the blaster.

The rokkit launcher has a hand built on, and needs a left arm to complete it.
The big shoota has no hand, so needs a left arm with hand and an ammo feed to complete it.

Neither of these arms are included in the box.

I can't think of any good reason for including these weapons as is on this sprue...

Pics of sprue?

Here's pics of the relevent parts of the sprue. As you can see, nothing. Maybe they are just alternatives for the ones that come with the Boyz box. If they are options for the Mek, they sure as hell can't really be used easily.

Yeah, I thought that that was kinda weird that they supplied a bit for a two-handed Rokkit Launcha but not second supporting arm to hold it, ya know? GW has been trying to make it so that you need not convert a thing to make an army, but if you want the Rokkit Launcha optiono for your Mek you have to convernt a new arm. Not a big deal, just kinda funny.

you're right insaniak...i had a look at the codex after i posted the message, like an idiot...kustom mega blaster is in the left hand...doh!!!
at least the big shoota is designed to be held one-handed...where the arm for the rocket launcher is, i have no idea...
at least the kustom mega blaster is cool lookin'...

cheers
jah

jah-joshua wrote:at least the big shoota is designed to be held one-handed...

Although you'll still need to add an ammo belt or magazine...

well, since i'm a painter, and not a gamer, i don't have a problem with the composition of any of the sprues...between the box of boys, and the bunas/lootas, there are enough bitz to go around for anything i decide to make...
this box has shown a lack of thought in the bitz though...
why model half an option??? hell if i know...
i was stoked to get my hands on the speartip box before christmas though...especially with a $100 dollar gift certificate, and a 20% discount...free minis, woohoo...the new shock attack gun, and the wierdboy are some amazin' sculpts...

cheers
jah



cheers
jah

Made for troops, I think, and then convert for Mek.

would you look at that. they forgot to show how to build a mek with a bazooka in the "how to build the new mek" article on their homepage
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/orks/painting/assembly/lootas/mekboy.htm

I am not complaining here. The loota boxsets will provide the extra heavy weapons to arm up the 16 pack old ork boxsets I am buying up.

With only one plastic rokkit and one plastic big shoota model, those heavy weapons will look too uniform. With two you get some much needed irregularity.

I'm just glad to get the extra bitz.

Oh and you're going to have arms left over if you build any Boyz at all. And what self respecting Ork Warboss is going to have an Ork army with no Boyz?

Anung Un Rama wrote:would you look at that. they forgot to show how to build a mek with a bazooka in the "how to build the new mek" article on their homepage

HAHA! Did you notice the asterisk at the bottom of the page? "* To outfit your Mek with a Big Shoota or Rokkit Launcha, you'll need to use a left arm from the Ork Boyz sprue in order to hold the weapon. Worry not though, you'll have plenty of these bitz leftover after building your Boyz Mob!"

Don't know who wouldn't take a 'Eavy Weapons for each 10x boyz. Should have said "To oufit your Mek with a Big Shoota or Rokkit Launcha, you'll need a left arm which can be found in a completely different box set. So, please call Neal at the Warstore for all your bits needs. Thank you for the money, sucker."

"To oufit your Mek with a Big Shoota or Rokkit Launcha, you'll need a left arm which can be found in a completely different box set. So, please call Neal at the Warstore for all your bits needs. Thank you for the money, sucker."

Jeez. Most Ork players I know aren't fazed by that sort of thing. I can't imagine anyone building an Ork force and not having tons of extra limbs and bits floating around. I always end up with a bazillion extras when I do anything greenskin.

Maybe you're more of an Imperial Guard man...orderly ranks, standard equipment, a place for everything and everything in its place...

hubcap wrote:Jeez. Most Ork players I know aren't fazed by that sort of thing. I can't imagine anyone building an Ork force and not having tons of extra limbs and bits floating around. I always end up with a bazillion extras when I do anything greenskin.

Maybe you're more of an Imperial Guard man...orderly ranks, standard equipment, a place for everything and everything in its place...

Naw, I'm an Ork boy. In my army, every ten Boyz WILL have a special weapon. I'm sure I'll end up with my fair share of bits, but extra special weapons arms will not be one of them. What other kit really relies on the parts from a completely separate box to make all the options usable? Ork players are used to converting, which I do regularly, but this isn't about that.

I have so many arms left over this isn't a problem at all. Just snip a wrist and *ta da!* you have a Rokkit Launcha.

It isn’t really a big deal, there’s always so many bits around that it won’t be hard to make do. But GW is charging a premium price and should deliver a premium product, and that means it shouldn’t be necessary to make do with an arm from another sprue.

We are talking about little plastic men here right? Premium price for little plastic men? Maybe $10 for a little widget of plastic? I'll have mine individually carved from gold and painted by Golden Demon winning paint jobs and played on specially converted golf courses before I consider paying a few hundred bucks for little plastic men to be a premium product. Oh, and GW stores must be staffed by beautiful women and handsome men that serve complimentary drinks, direct comm-traffic, and move your individually scuplted and beautifully painted army of solid gold in an epic recreation of the battle of Armageddon. The golf course will, naturally, have been converted into a series of miniature scale maps of various parts of Armageddon. When GW starts charging premium price, then I'll break hell when the artisan that sculpted a Mekboy missing a left arm because that arm will be gold and I will have paid premium price for it.

Nurglitch wrote:We are talking about little plastic men here right? Premium price for little plastic men? Maybe $10 for a little widget of plastic? I'll have mine individually carved from gold and painted by Golden Demon winning paint jobs and played on specially converted golf courses before I consider paying a few hundred bucks for little plastic men to be a premium product. Oh, and GW stores must be staffed by beautiful women and handsome men that serve complimentary drinks, direct comm-traffic, and move your individually scuplted and beautifully painted army of solid gold in an epic recreation of the battle of Armageddon. The golf course will, naturally, have been converted into a series of miniature scale maps of various parts of Armageddon. When GW starts charging premium price, then I'll break hell when the artisan that sculpted a Mekboy missing a left arm because that arm will be gold and I will have paid premium price for it.

QFT

also i lol'd

honestly you dont have any other extra arm you can cut the hand off of? i mean i have only been back into the hobby for about 2 months and i have a ton of extra arms.

having played for eyars and just finished being a student GW has gone premium price. Yes it's partly my fault for helping with demand but at the same time being a student £15 as et is literaly half a weeks spending money (including drink, bus fares and of course food!) and having an arm missing does play havoc when building models! yes I know with orks there's spare anyway but it's the principal. If they advertise it with the options then there should be the parts for the options. Countless times I've created an army list to fit with what's advertised in the box and have had to some converting to get to that point, but it's wouldn't cost much to add in those extra arms. The cost of plastic is V. low, the manufacuring costs are covered anyway by the sprue, the artworks already done, shippings paid anyway. The only real costs on top of what they have already paid would be a bit of labour.....

covenant84 wrote:having played for eyars and just finished being a student GW has gone premium price. Yes it's partly my fault for helping with demand but at the same time being a student £15 as et is literaly half a weeks spending money (including drink, bus fares and of course food!) and having an arm missing does play havoc when building models! yes I know with orks there's spare anyway but it's the principal. If they advertise it with the options then there should be the parts for the options. Countless times I've created an army list to fit with what's advertised in the box and have had to some converting to get to that point, but it's wouldn't cost much to add in those extra arms. The cost of plastic is V. low, the manufacuring costs are covered anyway by the sprue, the artworks already done, shippings paid anyway. The only real costs on top of what they have already paid would be a bit of labour.....

for years there was no 40k chaos lord model. to play a chaos lord not only were you encouraged to convert you had to. no other option. same for ork warbosses, and still is true for battlewagons. GW does not always give you all the parts you need for something. at least now they are giving us extra parts we can use somewhere. and it may be the case that after you finish putting together all of the burna's and loota's on another sprue there will be the arm you are looking for. i dont know GW seems to do that occasionally.

and are you serious ARMS were what made you scrap a list because you werent sure you had enough? arms are the most common thing in my bits box. seriously if that was the case, i dont know perhaps you should start keeping a bits box because you must not have one at all.

It's poor design of the sprue/packaging. But, it's not as bad as only letting you build 4 deff guns out of the box of 5 models. I don't see the point of adding a mek to the unit. If he coudl take a KFF, then that'd be great, but to take a weapon that is either shorter ranged or less strength doesn't make sense to me. I think the new specialist unit box sets (incl. Kommandoes and Tankbustas) are really bad packaging.

Better incomplete bitz than no bitz at all.

For what it's worth, these bitz can also be used to give some variety to the Boyz. They're slightly different than the Shoota and Rokkit that come in the Boyz box.

Also, as has been said, you can use a normal Boy's arm to finish off the Rokkit, or you can rip the hand off the foregrip, and have it doing something else, like holding a choppa, or a spare Rokkit.

KIL KIL KIL wrote:stuff

Your username has to be the coolest. Damn, it just reminds me of the good ol' days when rogue trader was cutting edge.

Dude, get a clue about being an Ork!

Just stick the damn gun on the hole where is arm should go.

Yes, Orks do that! It's ok if YOU do that with YOUR Orks.

Honest!

and are you serious ARMS were what made you scrap a list

no it wasn't arms, I have those coming out of, well you guess.
The point i was trying to make was that some options in a codex arn't supplied and sometimes when they are they're with a different set than the one you actually need, meaning that for us poor students we have to build a list to fit with sets rather than what we would prefer to have. I couple of guys here have just started playing and can only afford one plastic squad box a month, so when they only come with half an option or not all the options it means that the army lists are v. limited. It's either GW being unconsiderate, stupid or a clever marketing ploy to get those new players or players who don't like ocnverting (yes they do exist!) buying more than they need.

Also I do have quite a healthy bits box, see my ad mech thread

I still don't see your point covenant84, as you will need loads off regular Ork boys in your army, you could buy the lootas the month after you buy boys, or wait a month to assemble the mek. And yes I have been a student as well, back in the days when their was only ugly a single pose plastic infantry box per army, if you were lucky.