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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/01 06:20:55
Subject: Mechanized Doctrine with Veterans and Drop Troops
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Sneaky Chameleon Skink
Los Angeles
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If you take the Mechanized doctrine which states that all infantry models must take a chimera, regardless of if they can, does that mean you cannot deepstrike in veterans as they need to have a chimera?
Just wondering as I was hoping of experimenting with mechanized/drop army, but if it cannot be down with veterans (I own no storm troops), then I suppose I'll just give up the idea.
Thanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/01 08:40:05
Subject: Re:Mechanized Doctrine with Veterans and Drop Troops
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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I don't remember any restriction for this situation (drop troopers and mechanized doctrines) in the IG codex (although there could be one I don't remember). From a RAW perspective, you don't have to deploy your troops inside or even near their transport vehicle. From a fluff perspective it doesn't make much sense to me to do what you propose, but I don't think RAW prohibits it. Anyone else have a different take on it? Any restrictions I am not remembering?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/01 15:31:33
Subject: Re:Mechanized Doctrine with Veterans and Drop Troops
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Regular Dakkanaut
Odessa, TX
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I was wondering about this as well. I play a mech list but I have always thought it might be fun to have something such as deep striking veterans. It seems to me that you can't really do that if they take a transport but then again I haven't really dug into the rules to deep either.
I can just see everyone in my play group calling foul when i deploy Chimeras but then deep strike the squads that go in them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/04 02:50:09
Subject: Mechanized Doctrine with Veterans and Drop Troops
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Grovelin' Grot
Shanghai
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From the Adepticon 1.1.0 FAQ:
8.14.0
Q: If a unit has both the Jungle Fighters and Mechanized doctrines can the unit infiltrate if not deployed inside
their Chimera (and the Chimera is deployed normally)?
A: No.
I think this extends to deepstriking also. If they are forced into reserve by escalation maybe you could deepstrike them, but otherwise I think they need to deploy with their car.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/04 03:45:27
Subject: Mechanized Doctrine with Veterans and Drop Troops
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Sneaky Chameleon Skink
Los Angeles
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This is what I had assumed, but I thank you for some extra clarification.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/04 04:19:35
Subject: Mechanized Doctrine with Veterans and Drop Troops
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Lieutenant General
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AnSteWe wrote:From the Adepticon 1.1.0 FAQ:
8.14.0
Q: If a unit has both the Jungle Fighters and Mechanized doctrines can the unit infiltrate if not deployed inside
their Chimera (and the Chimera is deployed normally)?
A: No.
I think this extends to deepstriking also. If they are forced into reserve by escalation maybe you could deepstrike them, but otherwise I think they need to deploy with their car.
Except the Infiltrate Universal Special Rule specifically states that a unit with a transport vehicle loses the Infiltrate ability. There is no such specific mention for Deep Strike.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/04 04:49:33
Subject: Mechanized Doctrine with Veterans and Drop Troops
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Fixture of Dakka
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You can deep strike a squad when it's available to enter from reserves, just keep in mind you cannot deep strike the vehicle--it enters play from the board edge as normal, after it's nominal cargo has already deep struck into play.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/04 16:21:57
Subject: Mechanized Doctrine with Veterans and Drop Troops
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
Right behind you...
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Yup. Agree 100% with Stelek...
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