| Author |
Message |
 |
|
|
 |
|
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/14 22:35:18
Subject: Leadership questions
|
 |
Implacable Black Templar Initiate
|
this is a problem that has been around for a while but we can't come to a conclusion
here is the question can a guard leaders of spacemarine commander's leader ship convey to the squad using his test unmodified.
1 Logic says that they get the leadership unmodified and add their negative modifiers to it.
2 because the GW is'nt always specific the leadership may be unmodified and even if they are outnumbered 5 to one they still get the leadership that the officer has regarding their unit strength ECT...
|
I don't expect you to die a meaningless death I expect you to die for the emperor now CHARGE
You know what we do to liars Petty
No wait I'm not ARGHHH
We kick em in the balls
Brother octavius ''open up on the genestealers''
Brother there are rippers closing in on the right RIPPERS''
"there only 3 of them"
"Fire upon the rippers NOW'' |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/14 23:06:02
Subject: Re:Leadership questions
|
 |
Long-Range Ultramarine Land Speeder Pilot
|
I don't have the rules on hand at the moment, but possibly by RAW you may have found a loop hole no one else has noticed... But chances of that are slim right?
I'll check when I get home from work if no one else has posted it by then.
|
DQ:80+S+++G+MB++I+Pw40k96#++D++A++/sWD-R++++T(T)DM+
Note: D+ can take over 12 hours of driving in Canada. It's no small task here.
GENERATION 5: The first time you see this, copy and paste it into your sig and add 1 to the number after generation. Consider it a social experiment.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/14 23:09:01
Subject: Leadership questions
|
 |
[MOD]
Making Stuff
|
There's no loophole. The characters mentioned bestow their Leadership upon the unit. Modifiers then apply as normal.
There is nothing in the rules that suggests that modifiers don't apply as normal, and so they do.
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/15 02:00:12
Subject: Re:Leadership questions
|
 |
Implacable Black Templar Initiate
|
Insaniak you are probablly right but I'd like more oppinions for consistancy
|
I don't expect you to die a meaningless death I expect you to die for the emperor now CHARGE
You know what we do to liars Petty
No wait I'm not ARGHHH
We kick em in the balls
Brother octavius ''open up on the genestealers''
Brother there are rippers closing in on the right RIPPERS''
"there only 3 of them"
"Fire upon the rippers NOW'' |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/15 04:10:21
Subject: Re:Leadership questions
|
 |
Implacable Black Templar Initiate
|
Anyone elses oppinion would be appreciated also so I can create a stronger case
|
I don't expect you to die a meaningless death I expect you to die for the emperor now CHARGE
You know what we do to liars Petty
No wait I'm not ARGHHH
We kick em in the balls
Brother octavius ''open up on the genestealers''
Brother there are rippers closing in on the right RIPPERS''
"there only 3 of them"
"Fire upon the rippers NOW'' |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/15 04:38:31
Subject: Leadership questions
|
 |
Regular Dakkanaut
|
As Insaniak said, the Space Marine Comander's Rites of Battle allows all marines in the army to use the commander's leadership characteristic for tests.
The leadership test is then modified in various situations (p. 47 of the rulebook, for example).
There's no reason why units would ignore modifiers when using the commander's Ld anymore than they would ignore modifiers when using their own Ld.
|
|
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2008/02/15 04:40:02
"I didn't say I was ATTACKING the Umber Hulk. I said I was THINKING about it." -- Jimbo Jones as one of "The 12 Types of Fantasy Gamers" in "Comic Book Guy's Book of Pop Culture" |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/15 15:19:58
Subject: Leadership questions
|
 |
Longtime Dakkanaut
Cherry Hill, NJ
|
I am in agreement with what has been said by both Insanick and swize1. The Leadership applies before modifications have been counted.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/02/18 22:30:51
Subject: Leadership questions
|
 |
Implacable Black Templar Initiate
|
Thanks for that I just wanted to be sure
|
I don't expect you to die a meaningless death I expect you to die for the emperor now CHARGE
You know what we do to liars Petty
No wait I'm not ARGHHH
We kick em in the balls
Brother octavius ''open up on the genestealers''
Brother there are rippers closing in on the right RIPPERS''
"there only 3 of them"
"Fire upon the rippers NOW'' |
|
|
 |
 |
|
|