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Played two games of 1000 points tmc and gaunts, and had great success against blood angels and black templar.

My third game was against another tmc army. I made a few basic mistakes and lost.

But he had a curious configuration: genestealers with rending claws and scything talons. He claimed three rending attacks per round. On page 31 of the codex, under the heading rending claws, it says "tyranids with rending claws gain the Rending ability for all their close combat attacks."

Is this the consensus interpretation? Does this meaning the scything talons also gain rending? Tried looking around for a previous posting that covered this and only found a question on another site about bioplasma as not covered by this interpretation.

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rending claws make all your attacks have the rending ability ie; 6 to hit=instant wound with no armor saves allowed.

scything talons give you one extra attack, just like old chaos demonic mutation. so yes 3 rending per round is legal but expensive


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Even when you use the bioplasma in your warriors in addition to rending claws this bp attack is rending too...

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The rending claws rules on page 31 states:
Tyrranids with rending claws gain the Rending ability for all their close combat attacks.

Thus any attack that is designated a close combat attack would benefit of the rending ability.

The bio-plasma attack is however a good question.
I would say yes, its rending as it is defined as a close combat attack however I am not sure how to counter a claim that is not a normal to hit roll however...

I would still say yes, its rending.

Stelek wrote:Dude, you cannot FNP MC CC attacks. I don't care how you "read" the rules. I even don't care if you are correct and GW says you can. lol
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fester wrote:The rending claws rules on page 31 states:
Tyrranids with rending claws gain the Rending ability for all their close combat attacks.

Thus any attack that is designated a close combat attack would benefit of the rending ability.

The bio-plasma attack is however a good question.
I would say yes, its rending as it is defined as a close combat attack however I am not sure how to counter a claim that is not a normal to hit roll however...

I would still say yes, its rending.


eh?
Where does a "normal to hit roll" ever come up?

I read "any roll to hit" in the book along with "all their close combat attacks". The exceptions are pretty clearly listed.

Why is this even an issue? The only confusing part is that this part is confusing to some folks. The rending rules are consistent with the way all CC is handled.

What is funny is a Rending Mace tail. . . erp? Although, if anything is going to rip someone apart with a blunt object, it would be a carnifex.

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Rending claws on an MC is just dumb

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Lormax wrote:Rending claws on an MC is just dumb


No.

It is funny too.

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I'm too lazy to go get my codexs out of my car... But doesn't it say Bio-Plasma is unaffected by the guy's other special rules like MC or Rending?

 
   
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Aduro wrote:I'm too lazy to go get my codexs out of my car... But doesn't it say Bio-Plasma is unaffected by the guy's other special rules like MC or Rending?



Nope, it only mentions that it doesn't benefit from the MC rules, nothing at all about Rending.




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Actually Yakface, go to the Tyranid FAQ on gw's website and it says bioplasma is not affected by rending...

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I don't see it in the FAQ....
   
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Nooobody wrote:Actually Yakface, go to the Tyranid FAQ on gw's website and it says bioplasma is not affected by rending...

-Nooobody


Yeah, I'm not seeing it in the FAQ either. In fact, the words Rending and Bio Plasma don't even appear in the FAQ at all.

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If an official FAQ states it then it is law.

If you are at a tournament where they have an independent FAQ and it states this then that FAQ is law for that tournament.
If you have an issue you should play nice and after you crush all the opponents, charm all the ladies, recieve all the trophies (including the sportsmanship one) you should swing over by the judges table and drop a FYI, this rule may need some looking into...

If you loose like most of us will then suck it upp, get a beverege you are legally allowed to drink and enjoy and drown your anger in it and explain to yourself that next time you should actually read the tournament FAQ and not just print it out and stick it in a pretty binder, if the same rule comes upp then you should then bring the issue up before the tournament starts.

All I know is that the rending claws rules claim that all the models CC attacks are considered rending.

I am sure there can be exeptions but then they will be clearly stated where needed.

Stelek wrote:Dude, you cannot FNP MC CC attacks. I don't care how you "read" the rules. I even don't care if you are correct and GW says you can. lol
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