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I'm thinking of picking up a wraithlord to run with my Eldratar combo, and I'm curious how to equip him. Deluxe would be Brightlance, scatter laser, and two flamers, but I can see anything from just a single brightlance to the poor mans single shuriken cannon working for them. How do most of you equip and utilize your wraithguard?

From my experience, there are really two configurations that work best in my footslogging Eldar list. 1) brightlance + missile launcher + 2 flamers. 2) missile launcher + scatter laser + 2 flamers. The first configuration I use when I expect to face heavy armor. The second I use when I expect to face hordes.

Darrian

If I have the points I will always, no exceptions, go for the BL + EML. It's easy to get S6 multishot into an Eldar list, harder to get reliable, cost-effective S8+. More specifically, there is really no other good place to get a BL, and since I'm getting the BL, it only makes sense to get a second heavy that can damage the targets I would use a BL against.

I think that the bright lance / missile launcher combo is the only configuration worth considering. The dreadnaught is the only place in the eldar army where you can get BS 4 heavy weapons. So to really maximize on this you want to load them out with tank busting power and leave the spray and pray troop killing weapons to the other BS 3 portions of the list. Since (for some screwy reason) you can't effectively take two bright lances, the lance / missile launcher combo works out the best here.

Equipping the dreadnaught for troop killing is mostly a waste since there are other selections that do the job better (war walkers or dark reapers for example). Equipping it for hand to hand (giving it the wraith sword) is also kind of a waste since you only move 6" a turn and there are lots and lots of units out there with power fists (or similar monstrous creature killing equipment) that will generally limit your ability to really kill much with it.

I really wish there was a way to get that cool-looking sword on the mini without vastly reducing it's effectiveness. Sigh.

Savnock wrote:I really wish there was a way to get that cool-looking sword on the mini without vastly reducing it's effectiveness. Sigh.

You can shoulder mount both guns and then have it wielding the sword. Just let your opponent know you didn't buy it. Problem solved and cool model still present.

yea i have always ran the EML/BL combo and the other day i ran a Scatter laser/shruiken cannon on him and it wasnt bad, its nice getting 4-6 hits constantly, but her really shines as a tank hunter with the EML/BL combo

Oh, I forgot to mention that there's one other option I'd consider: BL + starcannon. I've found that I often as not end up firing my WL's weapons at MCs instead of vehicles, or firing at Terminators after my FDs have already busted the important tanks. For the extra 5 pts, the SC could be worth it.

tegeus-Cromis wrote:If I have the points I will always, no exceptions, go for the BL + EML. It's easy to get S6 multishot into an Eldar list, harder to get reliable, cost-effective S8+. More specifically, there is really no other good place to get a BL, and since I'm getting the BL, it only makes sense to get a second heavy that can damage the targets I would use a BL against.

Seconded

Usually i like to designate my wraithlord as good at long range or close range shooting. Long range, bright lance and like the eldar missle launcher, Close range, starcannon and wraithsword or some other gun (depending on who i play.) Wraith sword isnt very effective in most cases, but its cheap.

My Eldar army has some difficulty with 13 and higher armor. The WL with Brightlance/Eldar Missile Launcher helps to offset this issue.

(new to 40k, but not table top gaming)

Good info here, and think I'm going with EML and BL, but curious on which basic weapon config is best:
- S. Catapult + Flamer
- 2x S. Catapult
- 2x Flamer

I'm thinking, since I'm still learning, SC + F works best to learn/keep my options open.

Thoughts?

Double flamer. 12" range isn't an improvement over the flamer, and anything you'd bother shooting s4 shots at will have more than two models able to be covered by a template.

Yes you should absolutley get double flamers no matter what other weapons you give him.

When I run my Wraithwall list I usually only equip my 2-3 Wraithlords with the Wraithblade and use them as CC support for the Wraithguard together with the Avatar. In that sort of list I leave the tank-hunting for the Fire Dragons.

BL/EML Lords are effective though and I can favourably recommend them. Bear in mind though, that they work best in pairs

Yep double flamer is always a good choice ... Personally i like an EML and ScatterLaser.

Good mix of range anti infantry (that can double for anti AV10-11)

Not a massive fan of Bright lances in general; Since they generally under perform .

I'd recommend using magnets so you can outfit them in any combination in case you change your mind.

I prefer BL/EML wraithlords in pairs with dual flamers. A single wraithlord is going to be a bit unreliable for long range AT.

Magnets for the main weapons is definitely the right way to go, you never know if the next eldar codex wont radically change the correct weapon layout like the last one did for star cannons. On the secondary weapons tho there is no reason to not take two flamers.

Also, the best weapon loadout for WLs changes a bit on the point level of the game you are playing. If you constantly play lower points games then it is possible that the sword is a good option. In the 500-750 range nothing says win quite so much as having your farseer use mindwar to kill the pk nob in the large mob of boyz and then plow into it with the wl. Any large unit that doesnt have some sort of power fist becomes a perfect WL target, and at lower point levels these sorts of units are fairly common.

If Im using a BL then the WL is one of the prime locations for it, twin linked BL on a serpent works better in some ways tho.

An eml on a wl works very well indeed since it promotes flexibility.


Sliggoth

Sliggoth wrote:If Im using a BL then the WL is one of the prime locations for it, twin linked BL on a serpent works better in some ways tho.

TL-BS3 = 75% hit rate
BS4 = 66.6% hit rate
TL-BS4 = 88.8% but we all know you don't want to take two of the same (main) weapons on a wraithlord

Only down side is you've turned your transport into a bigger target. (well that and you can't go fast then 12" if you want to shoot it)

Magnets are your friend.

Best load out probably is Bright Lance and Eldar Missle Launcher for anti tank and to make use of bs4. Easy to get Strength 6 shooting elsewhere and most of the strength 6 shooting is multi shot so not hurt as bad by bs3.

Sword & Shuriken cannon.

Allow him some decent hit-chance on close-combat attacks (in terms of anti-armour), a reliable way to dig himself out of TEQ/MEQ's with his mere 2 attacks/turn outside the charge and that shuriken cannon is a cheap way to allow him some extra shooting if assaults are a bad idea at the time.

Most of all, he's a cheap T8 3+ save dude.. Putting heavier weapons on him make him a prime target for those lascannons which he has little defence against. I vote to keep them cheap. Field the points elsewhere.