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Newbie Black Templar Neophyte





One of my friends plays a tau army with a large amount of kroot and I play a smaller eldar army with 10 howling banshees Im playing him in a few days and I wanted to know if my banshees will be able to stop his kroot from ripping apart my da and guardians

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Stalwart Skittari




Wit' dem umies in da good battle

kroot has no armor saves right? ... there should be nothing left of the kroot.. .if they atack you... haha

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Stalwart Skittari




Wit' dem umies in da good battle

how big is the table?

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Newbie Black Templar Neophyte





7x7 feet I think Im not sure its his kitchen table

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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine





Los Angeles

interesting question...

Kroot are more of a shooty unit or a counter assault/speedbump unit than an assault unit.

20 kroot vs 10 banshees, if the kroot got charge on the banshees and could get everyone in base to base or close to it, both sides would take about 6 casualties. Kroot tend to break and get run down if they lose combat but your banshees would be pretty crippled. Any situation in which you charge them or you can keep too many kroot out of the combat are you'll probably just clear the kill zone.

Unfortunately, if you try to walk up to the kroot, they will just shoot you...20 guys rapid firing Str 4 weapons at banshees is not good for your banshees (40 shots 20 hits 40/3 wounds 20/3 dead...about 7 dead banshees, but only 3 if they don't get to rapid fire, which they shouldn't due to fleet)

Either way if they're shooting you they've either infiltrated annoyingly or you're trying to get them, so your guardians and DA are safe. Really the guardians and DA have their own built in kroot protection - just shoot them, and don't stand too close to a forest that the kroot can dig into.

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Flashy Flashgitz





Devon, England

Bear in mind that if he's killing your Kroot, he's spending time NOT killing your stuff with actual decent armour saves, which is a silver lining. Power weapons are a waste against Kroot. They should be more worried about Dire Avengers.

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Executing Exarch





Los Angeles

You should not be sending your banshees in to fight kroot. They are a waste of the banshee's tallent and abilities. The banshees should be going after suits (broad side or crisis) or failing that, fire warriors. If there are kroot on the table, they are a prime target for dire avengers or guardians. Lots of models with little to no armor save are just asking to be killed by massive amounts of shuriken catapult fire.

As an eldar player you need to learn what kinds of targets your units are good at dealing with. Banshees are good at taking out units with low toughness, heavy or very heavy armor, and small to medium sized squads. Now not all of these conditions have to be met, but the more that are, the better they will do. On the other hand, dire avenger shooting is best at taking out targets with medium to low toughness, light armor, and large squad sizes (can you say kroot boys and girls? I knew you could). So with that in mind, use your eldar mobility to make sure your units end up fighting the units that they are best at killing.

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Executing Exarch





FishMonk, you are aware that almost the whole point of Banshees is to ignore armour saves? Right? Right?

To the OP: lambadomy and Phoenix have it right. That aside, if you don't have the means to deliver the Banshees to more appropriate targets, you would be best off not actively attempting to charge the Kroot, but simply blocking them off from charging the DAs and Guardians. If you get the chance to charge them as they try to charge your other units, great. If not, just use them to block the charge to those units or, failing that, countercharge.

Really, though, he would need an awful lot of Kroot to get past all those shurikens. I would be more worried about dealing with his suits--from the list you posted, it seems like the only thing you have that can deal with them is one squad of FDs in a Falcon. Once that squad dies, all your opponent will need to do is keep the Falcon shaken and his suits will have free reign. If he keeps his Kroot back in cover instead of trying to charge into battle, you may have a hard time winning the VP war.

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If you are really worried about these kroot, taking a Striking Scorpion squad with Biting Blade is a mean, mean, mean way of killing them off. 3 attacks each otc and 2 when locked, at strength 4 and for the exarch up to str 7, you can usually kill off his kroot in one turn and ask for more. Besides, the str 4 and bundle of attacks can come in really handy against his lo-tuff in general tau.

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