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The small rulebook will have complete rules and will be full colour.

Actually, this should say, "small rulebook does have complete rules and is in full colour."

The small rule book is already available for viewing in GW stores and has been since the same date as the large hardback rule book. I can tell you that it's the thickest mini rule book yet and it does indeed have all the rules in full colour.

warpcrafter wrote:So, basically buy two starters, trade the elfs for more rats and pick up a screaming bell and the basic army is set. And no need to lug around a book that you could beat someone to death with...

Remember its a great weapon so you always strike last

Kroothawk wrote:Just some news:
The small rulebook will have complete rules and will be full colour.

And on High Elf miniatures GodlessM over at Warseer wrote:

GodlessM wrote:I know that multi-part separate kits for the High Elf stuff in the IoB box is out in the HE wave along with new stuff (White Lions).

"Scryer in the Darkness" also confirmed plastic Phoenix Guard to come.

Well, good news about the small rulebook.
Why should somebody buy the new 'fat' rulebook?

Assassination?

Looking at that list, I'm thinking if accurate the High Elf Battalion makes a very nice starting High Elf force when added. Think that will be my plan, probably get a Skaven one too.

god if those skaven are anything like the brand new ones I'll pick up 1 maybe 2!

nieto666 wrote:

warpcrafter wrote:So, basically buy two starters, trade the elfs for more rats and pick up a screaming bell and the basic army is set. And no need to lug around a book that you could beat someone to death with...

Remember its a great weapon so you always strike last

Not if you are the High Elf player

wuestenfux wrote:Why should somebody buy the new 'fat' rulebook?

1.) You don't need magnifiers to read the book
2.) The 30 pages of alternative scenarios and additional 60 pages for creating your own scenarios/legendary battles/campaigns are essential for every serious gamer.
3.) The background seems to have new stuff in in (haven't checked this myself yet).
4.) The background chapters, modelling section and galleries are essential for beginners and inspiring for everyone else. Creates interest in all armies and the modelling aspect.

You don't need magnifiers to read the book

My dear old thing! It's what monocles are for, what what!!

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:

You don't need magnifiers to read the book

My dear old thing! It's what monocles are for, what what!!

Dear Lord, I play Warhammer, how do you expect me to have any money leftover for a Monocle?

Cheaper than glasses, right? (one lens, less money!)

I couldn't resist - I preordered the Big Book at 25% off...

You would think so, but sadly, no, much, much more expensive!

I feel for anyone that would want the special POs and do not look online and had to wait for WD to hear of them, no special POS for them!

nieto666 wrote:Remember its a great weapon so you always strike last

Nice one.

Some new tidbits on the starter box from Warseer:

deadmeat30 wrote:have you seen the most amazing sculpt of the warlock engineer, with a staff and 'freddy' style glove out reached like hes projecting warp lightning? Or the plastic Griffon swooping down from the sky?

And there will be plastic Dragon Princes as part of the HE second wave.

WTB more pictures of starter set... My skaven need another 200+ cheap to get clanrats along with extra bits and peices ;p

BrassScorpion wrote:

The small rulebook will have complete rules and will be full colour.

Actually, this should say, "small rulebook does have complete rules and is in full colour."

The small rule book is already available for viewing in GW stores and has been since the same date as the large hardback rule book. I can tell you that it's the thickest mini rule book yet and it does indeed have all the rules in full colour.

Does this mean that you'll be able to buy the small one seperatly before the box set is released...?

No. That is highly unlikely. Store managers were given those copies early so they could get familiar with the rules before product launch.

Kroothawk wrote:That bloated monster of a BRB that you could beat someone to death with is a fantastic book that every serious veteran and beginner should have, not only for the dozens of scenarios at the end. Do some work-out, folks

No.

Kroothawk wrote:And there will be plastic Dragon Princes as part of the HE second wave.

Oo,..For serious? If so, I'm gonna be broke -___-.

Excellent, Skaven and High Elves! I always loved the models and now's the perfect time to start them.

They could actually fit a dragon in that tiny box? Crazy. Are there any pics yet, or am I just expecting to much?

Griffon in the starter box, not a dragon. And before you ask, the Dragon Princes are in the 2nd wave, not the starter. And no pics yet.

Okay.

BrassScorpion wrote:No. That is highly unlikely. Store managers were given those copies early so they could get familiar with the rules before product launch.

Shame...

Kroothawk wrote:Griffon in the starter box, not a dragon. And before you ask, the Dragon Princes are in the 2nd wave, not the starter. And no pics yet.

Ands what's all this talk about 'waves'? Are they releasing a new HE codex after the box set comes out, or just new models or something?

Eldar Own wrote:Ands what's all this talk about 'waves'? Are they releasing a new HE codex after the box set comes out, or just new models or something?

Similar to the splash release of new Orc Boarboyz and River Trolls, there's rumored to be an upcoming "second wave" of High Elf models independent of any new rules releases.

I think there was talk of various armies receiving new cavalry models in general, though specifically for High Elves it seems to be new Dragon Princes (and possibly new plastic Elite Infantry?)

With Dragon Princes, it wouldn't be too hard for them to make a combination kit of Dragon Princes and Silver Helms.

Add some additional bits that scream "Caledor"(a dragon horn for the musician, dragon wing crests for the helms and horse's headguards, things like that) and it could be done pretty easy.

Kanluwen wrote:With Dragon Princes, it wouldn't be too hard for them to make a combination kit of Dragon Princes and Silver Helms.

Add some additional bits that scream "Caledor"(a dragon horn for the musician, dragon wing crests for the helms and horse's headguards, things like that) and it could be done pretty easy.

Well, GW could make two kits, and sell them, or make one kit, and sell it. That sort of reduces income dosn't it? I know GW isn't known for being sensible but you have to admit, they arn't that lacking buissness sence to realise that selling two kits is going to make more money than selling one.

Though I do agree it would be easy for them to do it, I just say they won't.

wizard12 wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:With Dragon Princes, it wouldn't be too hard for them to make a combination kit of Dragon Princes and Silver Helms.

Add some additional bits that scream "Caledor"(a dragon horn for the musician, dragon wing crests for the helms and horse's headguards, things like that) and it could be done pretty easy.

Well, GW could make two kits, and sell them, or make one kit, and sell it. That sort of reduces income dosn't it? I know GW isn't known for being sensible but you have to admit, they arn't that lacking buissness sence to realise that selling two kits is going to make more money than selling one.

Though I do agree it would be easy for them to do it, I just say they won't.

Flawed logic. It actually makes more sense to make a kit that two groups of people will want to buy. You can then charge more money because of the extra parts on the sprues.

Well, unless you feel like magnetizing all those little dragon wings on your horse heads, you will just buy two boxes...

Rumours talk about plastic Sea Guard, Swordmasters, Reavers, Dragon Princes, White Lions and Phoenix Guards. That's a lot, not sure if all come, best confirmation for Dragon Princes and White Lions. No new army book.

If there's plastic Sea Guard...well, that'll be interesting to say the least.

New archers AND new spearmen, but in the same box!

GW often offers starter box units as new plastic boxes soon afterwards, e.g. Goblin Spider riders. So there is hope.