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Good, then I agree, the coolest people do have head covering devices in their avatars!

I think its a scientific fact. Lets go with scientific, it sounds so.....official

For science!

And you can't question science, all science is fact!

ITS TRUE!!!!!!!! THE EARTH IS FLA.........ROUND!!!! Its ROUND!

it makes me laugh that i noticed this thread while having a breakfast of biscuits and gravy

Do I count as having a head covering device?

I hate almonds...

My head covering device is air.

Almonds are okay, peanuts are better.

Sorry if this has been posted already but technically the british definition of biscuit is the correct one, 100% no argument.

Bis-Cuit: 'Twice cooked' simple french. Biscuits by definition are dry and crunchy, the first biscuits; 'Ship biscuits' started out hard, dry and crunchy and slowly over time became more wet as they absorbed moisture. It was only when they started absorbing moistue that they began to spoil.

flour-based food Items that are not 'twice cooked' go hard and dry when they start to spoil. (Usually referred to as 'stale')

Biscuits become soft when they go stale, cakes become hard.

So an american 'breakfast biscuit' = a cake.
Whats odd is that IIRC the term biscuit is not really used in france, so although it is a contraction of two french words it is English.

It's not really French, it's Latin. Biscotti is an Italian biscuit that is literally twice baked and it's name means "twice baked" in Italian, obviously Italian and French are both descended from Latin.

But yeah American "biscuits" would really be defined as cakes over here (and thus would be a luxury good and require VAT to be paid).

True, they probably would be (even though American biscuits are truer to the origin of the term than British biscuits).

Well saying its not french but latin is like saying a car is actually a steamtrain because it has an engine.

Not all cakes pay full VAT.
In the same way that a chocolate digestive attracts VAT when a normal one does not.

Corpsesarefun wrote:It's not really French, it's Latin. Biscotti is an Italian biscuit that is literally twice baked and it's name means "twice baked" in Italian, obviously Italian and French are both descended from Latin.

But yeah American "biscuits" would really be defined as cakes over here (and thus would be a luxury good and require VAT to be paid).

Hence the debacle that was "Is a Jaffa Cake a biscuit or a Cake?" for TAX purposes a few years back.

Cookie to me, is those large (over 3" to 5" diameter) and flat (less then 1/2" thick) biscuits with actual pieces within them (Macademia, chocolate chips etc). Biscuit it self , is a wide term. You have Cheese Biscuits (like water biscuits etc) partly towards crackers and also sweet biscuits like custard creams, but then Digestive Biscuits are right between them and can be both. It's very ambiguous, like Fruit, tomatoes are a fruit but don't go in a Fruit salad, and are more at home with Salad Vegatables (Cucumbers, Lettuce etc).

Cookies are soft and chewy(?) rather than crunchy and crumbly, because they are only lightly backed.

Though I have seen a show about a US cookie cafe which specialises in hard baked cookies which I suppose are basically biscuits in the British sense.

Kilkrazy wrote:Cookies are soft and chewy(?) rather than crunchy and crumbly, because they are only lightly backed.

Though I have seen a show about a US cookie cafe which specialises in hard baked cookies which I suppose are basically biscuits in the British sense.

Where do Oreos fit in though? They're crunchy.

mwnciboo wrote:

Corpsesarefun wrote:It's not really French, it's Latin. Biscotti is an Italian biscuit that is literally twice baked and it's name means "twice baked" in Italian, obviously Italian and French are both descended from Latin.

But yeah American "biscuits" would really be defined as cakes over here (and thus would be a luxury good and require VAT to be paid).

Hence the debacle that was "Is a Jaffa Cake a biscuit or a Cake?" for TAX purposes a few years back.

In fairness, it was fairly important to mcvitties and they were right...
It is a cake...

Amaya wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:Cookies are soft and chewy(?) rather than crunchy and crumbly, because they are only lightly backed.

Though I have seen a show about a US cookie cafe which specialises in hard baked cookies which I suppose are basically biscuits in the British sense.

Where do Oreos fit in though?

Waste bins, usually.

purplefood wrote:

mwnciboo wrote:

Corpsesarefun wrote:It's not really French, it's Latin. Biscotti is an Italian biscuit that is literally twice baked and it's name means "twice baked" in Italian, obviously Italian and French are both descended from Latin.

But yeah American "biscuits" would really be defined as cakes over here (and thus would be a luxury good and require VAT to be paid).

Hence the debacle that was "Is a Jaffa Cake a biscuit or a Cake?" for TAX purposes a few years back.

In fairness, it was fairly important to mcvitties and they were right...
It is a cake...

I thought McVitties claimed they were biscuits so they could avoid VAT?

Amaya wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:Cookies are soft and chewy(?) rather than crunchy and crumbly, because they are only lightly backed.

Though I have seen a show about a US cookie cafe which specialises in hard baked cookies which I suppose are basically biscuits in the British sense.

Where do Oreos fit in though? They're crunchy.

Oreos are biscuits, they go soft when stale.

Oreos are awesome! D:

Corpsesarefun wrote:

purplefood wrote:

mwnciboo wrote:

Corpsesarefun wrote:It's not really French, it's Latin. Biscotti is an Italian biscuit that is literally twice baked and it's name means "twice baked" in Italian, obviously Italian and French are both descended from Latin.

But yeah American "biscuits" would really be defined as cakes over here (and thus would be a luxury good and require VAT to be paid).

Hence the debacle that was "Is a Jaffa Cake a biscuit or a Cake?" for TAX purposes a few years back.

In fairness, it was fairly important to mcvitties and they were right...
It is a cake...

I thought McVitties claimed they were biscuits so they could avoid VAT?

Nah it's cakes that aren't taxed (Might be not taxed as much) because chocolate covered biscuits are considered a luxury good.
They claimed that because jaffa cakes went hard rather than soft they were cakes.
They even baked a really big one to prove that they were essentially teeny tiny cakes...

I has a head covering device, and a monocle, and a pipe, and a moustache.

Therefore, I am cool.

Amaya wrote:Oreos are awesome! D:

Agreed.

greenskin lynn wrote:it makes me laugh that i noticed this thread while having a breakfast of biscuits and gravy

That sounds sooo good. Im making that for tomorrow.

Corpsesarefun wrote:Do I count as having a head covering device?

I hate almonds...

You can hate almonds, its ok. And yes a hoody is a head covering device. Also you duckface the gak out of Chowder, so your by default, in the cool mofo squad.

Great White wrote:My head covering device is air.

Almonds are okay, peanuts are better.

No, air doesnt count. And because of that, your peanut debate is incorrect

BlapBlapBlap wrote:I has a head covering device, and a monocle, and a pipe, and a moustache.

Therefore, I am cool.

Just wait till I bring out my 4th of July avatar. Its got all that PLUS the beard

KingCracker wrote:

BlapBlapBlap wrote:I has a head covering device, and a monocle, and a pipe, and a moustache.

Therefore, I am cool.

Just wait till I bring out my 4th of July avatar. Its got all that PLUS the beard

Oh rly?

A challenge? Erm.....still be posting here around July?

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

generalgrog wrote:Wow of all the things I never expected to learn about on dakka, I'm sure learning the difference between a crumpet and an english muffin is one of them. All I know is that they both look tasty with butter. And probably would go nicely with some butter cheese grits and bacon.

Crumpets with Cheese and Bacon?!

You make me sick.

Everything is better with Cheese and Bacon, Even a Snickers Bar... (Not a lie, Snickers wrapped in bacon and cheese is out of this world good.)

So baby flesh is better with mouldy cheese and raw bacon?

Who the hell eats baby flesh with RAW bacon? Christ man, have some dignity. Cook it first