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2012/05/19 23:19:35
Subject: Y'know I'd respect gay marriage foes a lot more if...
Yeah. I tried to get him to give some sort of argument, but he continues to be highly evasive.
The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
2012/05/19 23:43:22
Subject: Re:Y'know I'd respect gay marriage foes a lot more if...
To become a Notary Public, I took a test and paid about 90 bucks for a stamp. In the State of Florida I can charge up to 10 dollars to marry people.
Would I? Most Likely not since it's more of a pain than anything else.
To recap: Some 20 year old, that took a test and paid 90 bucks to the Govt can make you and your GF Man and Wife for 10 bucks. If anything, I would think there would be more outrage over that destroying the sanctity of Marriage then who can marry who.
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2012/05/19 23:45:12
Subject: Re:Y'know I'd respect gay marriage foes a lot more if...
Iur_tae_mont wrote:Just wanted to throw this out there for fun.
At age 20, I became a Notary Public
To become a Notary Public, I took a test and paid about 90 bucks for a stamp. In the State of Florida I can charge up to 10 dollars to marry people.
To recap: Some 20 year old, that took a test and paid 90 bucks to the Govt can make you and your GF Man and Wife for 10 bucks. If anything, I would think there would be more outrage over that destroying the sanctity of Marriage then who can marry who.
If you happened to be a Gay/Lesbian Notary, you betcha!
"But i'm more than just a little curious, how you're planning to go about making your amends, to the dead?" -The Noose-APC
"Little angel go away
Come again some other day
The devil has my ear today
I'll never hear a word you say" Weak and Powerless - APC
2012/05/19 23:46:18
Subject: Re:Y'know I'd respect gay marriage foes a lot more if...
Iur_tae_mont wrote:To recap: Some 20 year old, that took a test and paid 90 bucks to the Govt can make you and your GF Man and Wife for 10 bucks. If anything, I would think there would be more outrage over that destroying the sanctity of Marriage then who can marry who.
If you happened to be a Gay/Lesbian Notary, you betcha!
I can just hear the screams now. "THE GAYS ARE COMING, THE GAYS ARE COMING!"
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
2012/05/19 23:46:41
Subject: Re:Y'know I'd respect gay marriage foes a lot more if...
Iur_tae_mont wrote:Just wanted to throw this out there for fun.
At age 20, I became a Notary Public
To become a Notary Public, I took a test and paid about 90 bucks for a stamp. In the State of Florida I can charge up to 10 dollars to marry people.
To recap: Some 20 year old, that took a test and paid 90 bucks to the Govt can make you and your GF Man and Wife for 10 bucks. If anything, I would think there would be more outrage over that destroying the sanctity of Marriage then who can marry who.
If you happened to be a Gay/Lesbian Notary, you betcha!
Might be a problem then. Once upon a time, I was waiting for the right girl, Now I'll settle for anyone that can stand to be around me long enough to watch a movie.
2012/05/20 03:18:39
Subject: Y'know I'd respect gay marriage foes a lot more if...
40kFSU wrote: Ok dude. If you thing marriage is like foodstamps or welfare or the park service, Ok. Im not sure what to say about that.
That's because you're wrong, and have no rational response to his factually correct point. Just like all people who oppose gay marriage.
"Did you ever notice how in the Bible, when ever God needed to punish someone, or make an example, or whenever God needed a killing, he sent an angel? Did you ever wonder what a creature like that must be like? A whole existence spent praising your God, but always with one wing dipped in blood. Would you ever really want to see an angel?"
2012/05/20 04:06:03
Subject: Re:Y'know I'd respect gay marriage foes a lot more if...
"The board of the N.A.A.C.P. voted to endorse same-sex marriage on Saturday, putting the weight of the country’s most prominent civil rights group behind a cause that has long divided some quarters of the black community. "
2012/05/20 10:22:16
Subject: Re:Y'know I'd respect gay marriage foes a lot more if...
"The board of the N.A.A.C.P. voted to endorse same-sex marriage on Saturday, putting the weight of the country’s most prominent civil rights group behind a cause that has long divided some quarters of the black community. "
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2012/05/20 12:58:05
Subject: Re:Y'know I'd respect gay marriage foes a lot more if...
Southampton, Hampshire, England, British Isles, Europe, Earth, Sol, Sector 001
Will I ever get married? Probably not, I've never met Mr right.
Would I like the oppiton to get married? Yes, I'd like that fundrmental right.
Those that say no are being homophobic (to say it is not is just slilly and I have experiance with them scumbags).
Why should the likes of me (I tred an even finer line that the gays and lesbans) offend them and their small minds.
What would happen if we were to be married? Would the sky burn and the seas boil? Would birds fly backwards and and fish swamp the land? Would the world end?
Me thinks not.
So where is the harm, as far as I can see there is none, be sides we the LGBT (please don't forget the T) are just going to wait untill we have had enough and the second War of Stonewall happens
Ribon Fox wrote: What would happen if we were to be married? Would the sky burn and the seas boil? Would birds fly backwards and and fish swamp the land? Would the world end? Me thinks not.
So where is the harm, as far as I can see there is none, be sides we the LGBT (please don't forget the T) are just going to wait untill we have had enough and the second War of Stonewall happens
According to Princess Clara from Drawn Together, gay marriage will make the Nazis come back riding dinosaurs
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2012/05/20 14:28:13
Subject: Y'know I'd respect gay marriage foes a lot more if...
Southampton, Hampshire, England, British Isles, Europe, Earth, Sol, Sector 001
Hmmmmmm.............
I still say it wouldn't. Besides think of all the money it would make for the tax office Money trumps a mythical monster in the sky watching every thing you do
The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
2012/05/20 16:10:48
Subject: Re:Y'know I'd respect gay marriage foes a lot more if...
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2012/05/20 16:46:08
Subject: Re:Y'know I'd respect gay marriage foes a lot more if...
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2012/05/20 21:38:56
Subject: Y'know I'd respect gay marriage foes a lot more if...
When asked by The Barna Group what words or phrases best describe Christianity, the top response among Americans ages 16-29 was “antihomosexual.” For a staggering 91 percent of non-Christians, this was the first word that came to their mind when asked about the Christian faith. The same was true for 80 percent of young churchgoers. (The next most common negative images? : “judgmental,” “hypocritical,” and “too involved in politics.”)
Heh. Shh, don't let Biccat see this, he'll go on a crusade about "antichristians" or some nonsense.
But I think this is most pertinent...
We are tired of fighting, tired of vain efforts to advance the Kingdom through politics and power, tired of drawing lines in the sand, tired of being known for what we are against, not what we are for.
And this is probably why I rarely call myself a "Christian", even though it might be an accurate statement (What with me being a baptized Texan who finds herself regularly studying theology and the bible on her own free time).
If I had to describe myself I'd say I'm more of a Christ-follower than a Christian. Christianity's churches are associating themselves with hate, fighting, war, violence, politics, and other such non-sense too much...
Meh. [/rant]
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
2012/05/21 01:07:19
Subject: Re:Y'know I'd respect gay marriage foes a lot more if...
Interesting read and a quick one so will not be much TLDR. It is a bit more on the OP's topic.
Good stuff.
Personally though, even if the Christian Church wasn't so adamant and politically active I would still disagree with their beliefs to the extent that I cannot consider their religion to be appealing at all.
sebster wrote:
Orlanth wrote:Its a known fact that Aussies are genetically disposed towards crime, we intentionally set them up that way.
But only awesome crimes like bushranging and, if I understand the song correctly, sheep stealing and suicide.
2012/05/21 02:10:46
Subject: Re:Y'know I'd respect gay marriage foes a lot more if...
For my two cents I say why fight for something that costs $30 bucks to get into and thousands to get out of?
That aside, love, no Love is the rarest commodity on earth, more valuable than gold, platinum, or power even. If two people fall in love who am I to say they cannot enjoy the same protections that my ex-wife and I enjoyed? Marriage is now a more civil than religious ceremony in the eyes of Western culture. I am going to propose this: Married in front of a judge, magistrate, or justice of the peace? It's a civil union (be it one of each, or two of the same). The license gets filed at the courthouse, done. Get married at Church by a preacher? It's a marriage (be it one of each, or two of the same). License filed at the courthouse, the State calls it a civil union, both get equal protection under the law.
The Diocese I am in is going to start blessing homosexual marriages. So far this has caused hardly a murmur (other than the shouting match I got in with a Baptist on the subject). As this is a conservative church in a conservative diocese - Progress!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2012/05/21 03:21:00
Subject: Re:Y'know I'd respect gay marriage foes a lot more if...
I think what everyone NEEDS to do is take a breath, and then a look. I am a Catholic, we worship God, who is also Christ. In the new Testament, Christ freed us from the old laws, meaning most of what was the insanity of Leviticus.
Do i think marriage between people of the same gender, inanimate objects, or animals should be called "Civil - Union", yeah, i think so but when it comes to decisions like that on an intensely personal level, should be that persons business and or problem, i have no involvement in their lives, so therefore no weight on what they'd like to do. If they were my direct family, sure, maybe i would have some effect but they're not, same deal with abortion, i'm not a woman, nor do i know these women, but if it were my daughter, i would weigh in for one way or the other.
So, people can just leave me, my faith, my money, and my family out of their decisions as well, just let me go and live my life!
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2012/05/21 06:49:11
Subject: Y'know I'd respect gay marriage foes a lot more if...
Telling supporters of gay marriage to calm down and then comparing homosexuality to bestiality is like saying "calm down, you FETHING BASTARDS", IE, it's inherently contradictory.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
2012/05/21 07:36:16
Subject: Y'know I'd respect gay marriage foes a lot more if...
I would first like to say I am completely for gay marriage, if it were up to me I'd legalize it across the country. However, it really bothers me when people complain and rage against people whose opinions differ from theirs. I'm referring to posts in this thread. Just because you're offended by someone's opinion doesn't mean it's the wrong opinion, or that they're bad people. It's just a differing opinion.
I am back from taking care of my 12 adopted kids, the 14 dogs I saved, and 9 of my own children.* I barely have time for this topic.
But now that I have gotten away from them for a few minutes, I see this topic has gotten entertaining, as 40kFSU just continues to close his eyes and say "NAHNAHNAHNAH!"
*Diablo 3
2012/05/21 07:47:45
Subject: Y'know I'd respect gay marriage foes a lot more if...
Dreadwinter wrote:I am back from taking care of my 12 adopted kids, the 14 dogs I saved, and 9 of my own children.* I barely have time for this topic.
But now that I have gotten away from them for a few minutes, I see this topic has gotten entertaining, as 40kFSU just continues to close his eyes and say "NAHNAHNAHNAH!"
*Diablo 3
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2012/05/21 10:20:54
Subject: Y'know I'd respect gay marriage foes a lot more if...
40kFSU wrote:
Dogma- Sorry, you still arent getting any better with the one liners.
I admit they weren't my best, but this entire argument has become so hackneyed its often difficult to put one's best foot forward.
rockerbikie wrote:
One of my friends in fact got raped by lesbians, the Police would not take her case seriously because she is a Nationalists Socialist. No investigation was ever done. Is this fair?
Sure, she had the option of not being a Nazi.
rockerbikie wrote: In these hard times, we need Countries like America to stand united but Liberalists can't wait until a state of Nation growth.
I like this. Liberals that are part of a nation should wait for national growth.
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40kFSU wrote: Marriage has been consistent exactly because there has been a common foundation, religion.
So, using your logic, it is ok to rape nazis. Nice view. Kinda bias though.
2012/05/21 11:11:56
Subject: Y'know I'd respect gay marriage foes a lot more if...
Melissia wrote:Telling supporters of gay marriage to calm down and then comparing homosexuality to bestiality is like saying "calm down, you FETHING BASTARDS", IE, it's inherently contradictory.
That explains why it never has the desired effect when I gently remind the childrens that my yard has hazards and is not a good place to play on.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2012/05/21 11:53:44
Subject: Y'know I'd respect gay marriage foes a lot more if...
Melissia wrote:Telling supporters of gay marriage to calm down and then comparing homosexuality to bestiality is like saying "calm down, you FETHING BASTARDS", IE, it's inherently contradictory.
That explains why it never has the desired effect when I gently remind the childrens that my yard has hazards and is not a good place to play on.
It would also help if you were not letting the Weiner Legions out of your house while saying it.....