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People here are not necessarily making up stories. They are describing experiences that happened to them and how they perceived them/explained them. Your inability to distinguish between the two is telling.

If you want to start a thread about denying the supernatural or skepticism generally, please do. But this thread is for people to discuss what they perceived happening to them.

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Have you read this thread? I suggest going filtering by the OP's posts, where you will find that the person who started it is using it to tell obvious works of fiction about playing cards with a monster in the woods or the garden gnome outside coming to life and luring him out to his doom.

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I read on the last page where someone said “X happned to me” and you accused him of lying.

For the last time, stop derailing this thread.

   
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Once when my daughter was a wee-nipper, we had a nursery radio. Basically a walkie-talkie where so you can hear the baby rustling around and what not. One day, my wife and I are in the living room watching a film, and a loud baby cries comes through the walkie. We both were startled and looked at each other, because our daughter was at Grandma and Grandpas that night and we had accidentally left the monitor on.

In addition, my daughter had an electronic rocking Unicorn in her room. That thing was going off at all hours of the day and night singing its little song. When we moved it downstairs, it stopped randomly playing the songs.

My daughter's room was always the coldest room in the house.

Lastly, when my daughter was about 3-4 she would tell us about her friends in her room. We would hear her talking to them and playing.

Of course, all of this can and was easily dismissed and explained. However, that didn't make them less freaky in the moment.

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 Easy E wrote:
Once when my daughter was a wee-nipper, we had a nursery radio. Basically a walkie-talkie where so you can hear the baby rustling around and what not. One day, my wife and I are in the living room watching a film, and a loud baby cries comes through the walkie. We both were startled and looked at each other, because our daughter was at Grandma and Grandpas that night and we had accidentally left the monitor on.

In addition, my daughter had an electronic rocking Unicorn in her room. That thing was going off at all hours of the day and night singing its little song. When we moved it downstairs, it stopped randomly playing the songs.

My daughter's room was always the coldest room in the house.

Lastly, when my daughter was about 3-4 she would tell us about her friends in her room. We would hear her talking to them and playing.

Of course, all of this can and was easily dismissed and explained. However, that didn't make them less freaky in the moment.


You knew that your daughters room was haunted by entities with unknown motives? And you still let her stay there?

"Better her than me"?

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That's what I don't get. People tell stories of horrible hauntings. Being hurt and attacked by unseen entities. I am sorry, but if something I cannot see attacked me. I would not be staying there. Why would anyone go back to that place?

Unless.....
   
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 Dreadwinter wrote:
That's what I don't get. People tell stories of horrible hauntings. Being hurt and attacked by unseen entities. I am sorry, but if something I cannot see attacked me. I would not be staying there. Why would anyone go back to that place?

Unless.....
As Einstein said: "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." People will continue to stay through pretty rough times if they hope that things get better or just stop.
If everyone quit their jobs when things were against them, or if they had a bad time one day, or things like that - we'd have a massive unemployment rate. Human nature is to be incredibly stubborn about persevering through things - even if those happened to be supernatural.

Besides, people stay in houses with terrible conditions even when they're non-supernatural. Houses with pest infestations, houses built in geographically unsafe areas, houses with massive structural defects - and they still live in them.


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 Dreadwinter wrote:
That's what I don't get. People tell stories of horrible hauntings. Being hurt and attacked by unseen entities. I am sorry, but if something I cannot see attacked me. I would not be staying there. Why would anyone go back to that place?

Unless.....
As Einstein said: "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." People will continue to stay through pretty rough times if they hope that things get better or just stop.
If everyone quit their jobs when things were against them, or if they had a bad time one day, or things like that - we'd have a massive unemployment rate. Human nature is to be incredibly stubborn about persevering through things - even if those happened to be supernatural.

Besides, people stay in houses with terrible conditions even when they're non-supernatural. Houses with pest infestations, houses built in geographically unsafe areas, houses with massive structural defects - and they still live in them.


You have an evil spirit actively terrorizing your family vs actual real life pests you can kill with poisons? I will take the pests. If something I cannot see is talking to me, throwing things at me, or harming me in any other way I am leaving that house and I am dropping a match on the way out. I would rather be homeless and I have been homeless before.
   
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 Dreadwinter wrote:
You have an evil spirit actively terrorizing your family vs actual real life pests you can kill with poisons? I will take the pests. If something I cannot see is talking to me, throwing things at me, or harming me in any other way I am leaving that house and I am dropping a match on the way out. I would rather be homeless and I have been homeless before.
I don't know what I'd do. Depends how bad the hauntings are, I guess.
The occasional chills, doors opening, even nudges or whispers? I can live with that. Even the rare throwing objects? I could deal with it. Constant harassment and assault, yeah, I'd leave. But honestly, I'd rather live in a house with rare/minor supernatural occurrences than live in one with glaring structural defects or pest issues, coming from someone who has lived in places with both defective plumbing and with pest issues.

Of course, that's just my opinion.

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It depends to a degree on how discountable it is. If I was genuinely certain supernatural phenomena was occurring; I'd be setting up cameras all over the house and getting ready to publish my Nobel Peace Prize winning paper on the existence of forces which defied the laws of physics.


 
   
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 Ketara wrote:
It depends to a degree on how discountable it is. If I was genuinely certain supernatural phenomena was occurring; I'd be setting up cameras all over the house and getting ready to publish my Nobel Peace Prize winning paper on the existence of forces which defied the laws of physics.


And then get laughed out of... well, everywhere, because "it's obviously faked!"

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 Vulcan wrote:
 Ketara wrote:
It depends to a degree on how discountable it is. If I was genuinely certain supernatural phenomena was occurring; I'd be setting up cameras all over the house and getting ready to publish my Nobel Peace Prize winning paper on the existence of forces which defied the laws of physics.


And then get laughed out of... well, everywhere, because "it's obviously faked!"


Not quite. You see, after setting up my cameras and gathering initial evidence, I'd wander down to the science department and get a team together using the proof I'd gathered thus far;. Then we'd have a journal research paper written up with a few reputable names behind it. Then I'd apply for additional grant funding off the back of that to continue documenting and exploring the phenomenon.

You certainly wouldn't see it on the internet/telly/newspapers until we had something substantive to report.

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 Ketara wrote:
 Vulcan wrote:
 Ketara wrote:
It depends to a degree on how discountable it is. If I was genuinely certain supernatural phenomena was occurring; I'd be setting up cameras all over the house and getting ready to publish my Nobel Peace Prize winning paper on the existence of forces which defied the laws of physics.


And then get laughed out of... well, everywhere, because "it's obviously faked!"


Not quite. You see, after setting up my cameras and gathering initial evidence, I'd wander down to the science department and get a team together using the proof I'd gathered thus far;. Then we'd have a journal research paper written up with a few reputable names behind it. Then I'd apply for additional grant funding off the back of that to continue documenting and exploring the phenomenon.

You certainly wouldn't see it on the internet/telly/newspapers until we had something substantive to report.


And you seriously think the science department wouldn't laugh you out of there? I'd bet you any amount of money the only people who would take video evidence of paranormal activity seriously would be film students wanting to know how you got such wicked cool special effects.

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I'm reasonably certain I wouldn't be laughed out the door. I accept that not everyone might be in my position though.

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 Vulcan wrote:
 Ketara wrote:
 Vulcan wrote:
 Ketara wrote:
It depends to a degree on how discountable it is. If I was genuinely certain supernatural phenomena was occurring; I'd be setting up cameras all over the house and getting ready to publish my Nobel Peace Prize winning paper on the existence of forces which defied the laws of physics.


And then get laughed out of... well, everywhere, because "it's obviously faked!"


Not quite. You see, after setting up my cameras and gathering initial evidence, I'd wander down to the science department and get a team together using the proof I'd gathered thus far;. Then we'd have a journal research paper written up with a few reputable names behind it. Then I'd apply for additional grant funding off the back of that to continue documenting and exploring the phenomenon.

You certainly wouldn't see it on the internet/telly/newspapers until we had something substantive to report.


And you seriously think the science department wouldn't laugh you out of there? I'd bet you any amount of money the only people who would take video evidence of paranormal activity seriously would be film students wanting to know how you got such wicked cool special effects.


If you could get a ghost or paranormal activity on video, for certain, you would get a grant so big you wouldn't know what to do with it.

People would be lining up around the block to work with you. I would be refreshing the internet every other hour to see if anything new had popped up.

It would be a big deal. But notice, that hasn't happened yet.
   
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 Col Hammer wrote:
 Easy E wrote:
Once when my daughter was a wee-nipper, we had a nursery radio. Basically a walkie-talkie where so you can hear the baby rustling around and what not. One day, my wife and I are in the living room watching a film, and a loud baby cries comes through the walkie. We both were startled and looked at each other, because our daughter was at Grandma and Grandpas that night and we had accidentally left the monitor on.

In addition, my daughter had an electronic rocking Unicorn in her room. That thing was going off at all hours of the day and night singing its little song. When we moved it downstairs, it stopped randomly playing the songs.

My daughter's room was always the coldest room in the house.

Lastly, when my daughter was about 3-4 she would tell us about her friends in her room. We would hear her talking to them and playing.

Of course, all of this can and was easily dismissed and explained. However, that didn't make them less freaky in the moment.


You knew that your daughters room was haunted by entities with unknown motives? And you still let her stay there?

"Better her than me"?


Do you know how hard it is to get a decent house, at a decent price, in THIS school district!?! It would take an army of Deadites to drive me away!


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 Dreadwinter wrote:
That's what I don't get. People tell stories of horrible hauntings. Being hurt and attacked by unseen entities. I am sorry, but if something I cannot see attacked me. I would not be staying there. Why would anyone go back to that place?

Unless.....


There are plenty of people who stay in places that have much more obvious danger such as....

1. Hurricanes and other natural disasters
2. Structural damage or building conditions
3. Health and safety violations like chemical waste residue, high-tension power lines nearby, etc.
4. Human hazards such as domestic abuse, verbal abuse, etc.

.... is it really hard to believe people stay through less tangible issues that are "obviously not really happening" like a Supernatural danger?


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Yeah, it very much is hard to believe. Have you watched the shows where people talk about it. They always describe it as a malevolent spirit trying to harm them. They have a hard time eating and sleeping. Often fearing for their own lives on a daily basis.

Hurricanes you can see coming. Structural damage isnt always that bad. Everything you mentioned has a work around. Except the domestic abuse. That one is more a psychological issue.

But there is no ghost spray. You cant have an exterminator show up and run the ghost out.
   
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The closest I got was when I stayed at a hotel while travelling across Australia and had an empty pepsi can slide a bit across a table. All the windows were shut and there was no breeze in the room that would have been enough to have moved it as I would have felt it. I wasn't near or touching the table either at the time, nor had it appeared to move. So I just figured I couldn't figure out whatever had done it and went to sleep.

   
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I've had some pretty unusual experiences, but talking about them makes me feel kind of stupid. It's not something trivial, either. I just know that coming out and talking about it sounds like absurd nonsense.

I might come back later because I get a little weirded out explaining it without some prep time, otherwise it just sounds goofy.

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Yeah, I have a couple of stories. Three and a half, to be specific, and an a,using anecdote from my mum.

Let's preface this however by saying this: I work in science. I belive in evolution, not the book of genesis. I try to be rational and grounded in my approach to life. That said, we don't yet know everything, and there are still lots o mysteries out there that science cannot yet explain. Especially when we go into the realms of wuantum mechanics and sum-atomic theory, my understanding is very limited, but I know enough to know things get weird.I am a bit of a dreamer, and a hopeless romantic. I like to believe things like ghosts and the Loch Ness monster are real, regardless of whethe they are or not, for the simple reason that I think them being real makes life far more interesting.

First one I remember was when I was a wee kid. Probably only four or five years old. Our home is a bungalow. Bedrooms towards one end, kitchen and living room towards the other, with a long L-shaped hallway running the length of the house, opening out by the front door being at the end of the 'L'. Now, when I was that age, I had a toy 'motor city' thing built up in the hallway near the front door - basically a big set of interchangeable plastic roads, bridges and intersections. For all my toy cars, obviously. Now I was proud of this thing, like any five year old. And I built it where everyone could see, and trip over (the joy of kids, eh? ) anyway, I wake up in the middle of the night bursting to go to the loo. I get up, leave my room, cross the hallway to the bsthroom, and as I do, I look down to see my motor city. There was a figure dressed in black kneeling down by it. I went to the loo and came back out, not entirely sure what I'd seen, but I was convinced enough I'd seen something I spent the next while turning on all the lights looking for that man. Nothing.

Second one, I was a bit older. Probably eight or nine, ten at the eldest. We were abroad visiting relatives. Anyway, my mom and aunt were in the living room talking, i was in the kitchen out on my own, lying on the floor staring out at the garden. Mom calls, and I turns around. And at my feet, there was a figure dressed in black. Blink, and he's gone.

Last one, and this is the one that creeps me a bit. I was maybe twelve, thirteen at the eldest, visiting other relatives from my dad's home town. Anyway, all the adults are adulting, myself and my cousins (similar ages to me) goofing off and watching tv. I decide I'm going to do some drawing. So I wander down to the bedroom to get my pencils and sketching pad. Walk into the room eyes downcast. See a movement in the corner of my eye and look up, and I saw what I can only swear was a translucent figure of an old woman wearing a shawl walking past and then she disappeared into mid air. Here's where it get started creepy. I grab my stuff, head back and say jokingly to my cousins, obviously planning on messing with his head ' 'hey, you know your house is haunted? I just saw a ghost in your room'. I'd expected to freak him out or at least get a reaction. Nope, he calmly acnssered back. 'I know. I've seen it. An old woman in a shawl'? Yup, that was me speechless.

Fourth time isn't really a ghost story. I just remember coming back from uni one weekend. Everyone is gone to bed. At about 2am I'm woken up by the tv blaring at full volume. I go down to see who put it on. No one. Everyone else was asleep. Tv randomly came on itself, apparently. Weird.

Now, I know your rolling your eyes. I don't blame you. Like I said, I try to be rational and grounded. That first example - you could say that it was due to a young kid, barely out of toddler years and an overactive imagination. Probably include him being half asleep as well. Very well could be true.
Second example? I remember it was a sunny summers dáy, and I was staring out into the garden. Mom calls and I roll round - could easily be sunspots or going from looking at bright light into shade. Very well could be true.
Third example. I have no idea. A second person recounted the exact same thing I had seen, without any prompting. I cannot explain this one. I don't think it can be a 'ghost'. It was a new house - built in the 80s. My cousins/uncle and aunt built it and were the first ones to live in it. The idea of a previous occupier who can't let go seems tenuous. Now, I know of some theories (and calling them 'theories' is tenuous) that say space and time is simultaneous, and that all things that have happened, and will happen are still happening, somewhere and that basically, if we were to run with this, We could have seen a 'thinning' of the membrane and seen a glimpse of an old lady walking down the road. Absurd, but maybe? I like to think, maybe a hundred years ago, there was an old lady who walked by that patch of ground and would swear blind she saw a ghostly young lad when she went by. Like I said, I like the story. Similarly - that figure dresses in black looking at my toy motor city? It still makes me smile to think I've got this ghost/spirit out doing ghost and spirity things, and he stops and takes a moment to have a look at a kids pride and joy.

Silly story now. My mom used to work at an old folks home typically folks with Alzheimer's. And occasionally things would go 'bump' in the night. And occasionally people would see things - staff and patients (and I don't know how credible any of that it - scarecely would be my view, being polite!). They used to chuckle and joke about the 'ghost' being a former resident with Alzheimer's who didn't know to move on, or had forgotten how to do it. Silly, but twelve hour shifts and long days makes you see humour in some dark places.

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Growing up one of my friends lived in a very old house that could be considered haunted and I saw a few things there that I still can't explain not certain it's spirit activity but I don't have any obvious answer to what caused them.

They would regularly see ball lights moving about the upstairs bedrooms and hallway. The lights would drift around in midair and sometimes move up the walls or along the ceiling eventually vanishing into the floor or walls. It wasn't a trick of lighting as it'd occur even when the shades were drawn and there wasn't a way for stray light to be reaching the hallway or bedrooms. They also seemed to move as if there was something guiding it as they'd react if there was person nearby. They could pass through doors and people, several times they would drift through us while we were watching them and it'd be a very minor jolt or electric shock when it passed through the point it touched you, a very low voltage zap sort of like the tingling you get placing a 9v battery on your tongue.

The rational part of my brain wants to say it was some sort of ball lighting or electrical disturbance but it occurred on a very frequent basis and miniature ball lightning happening inside a house seems very remote. I experienced it several times while I stayed there over the years. My friends parents were both teachers, his father is a college science professor so they are very analytical people and have spent years trying figure out what was going on and couldn't come up with any sort of solid theory despite seeing it quite frequently. It hasn't ever proven to be harmful so they just kind of shrug it off and go about their routine.

They've also seen ghostly people in the house as well, there's a woman that they believe used to be one of the former owners who died there around 1850. They did some research at the local library and found some photos of the owner and they said her photo matches up very closely with the woman they've seen walking about the house. I've personally never seen her but I've heard movement that sounds exactly like walking footsteps in the hallway even when it's empty (and you can see down the hallway from the bedroom door) My friends family said sometimes at night she walks down the hallway and comes a few steps into one of the bedrooms that used to be a nursery almost as if she's checking on a child, after that she just disappears.

I did have one sighting of a "person" that I can't really explain, underneath the house is a 5ft crawlspace that has a lot of old mid 1800's furniture that was left over from when they renovated the house. It's just sort of stashed under there and covered in drop cloths. My friend and I were going down there to find something and there was an old bed about 20 ft from the door. When we opened the door and flipped on the lightswitch there somebody was laying on the bed who abruptly sat up to look at us. We did a WTF??? look at each other and immediately slammed the door, I stayed at the door while he ran to get his dad and his older brother, who came down armed with a shotgun because our first instinct was that it was a burglar. We systematically searched the whole area under the house and pulled up every one the drop cloths and nobody was in there. His dad wasn't sure what to make of the situation since the only way in or out was through the door we'd entered which had been padlocked before we went in, there's no way to just climb up into the house somewhere and there's no windows as those had all been covered up when they remodeled. We were both certain we saw the same exact thing of a man sit up and look at us with a bit of a startled expression and he was wearing an old time full length style suit. It was really odd because it happened in the middle of the day and we both saw him.

I'm reluctant to call the events at his house ghosts, but I have no rational explanations for what we've seen there. It was also close to 30 years ago so we didn't have all sorts of night vision and motion activated cameras to do more detail investigations. I haven't talked with them in a long time but I'd love to know if they ever looked into things more since then.

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I have deleted a bunch of off-topic posts arguing about the existence of ghosts, burden of proof, etc. Please keep in mind we have a separate thread for that discussion here:

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Genuine question here for the believers, based on my own perceptions.

Whenever I see an American account of a ghost encounter, more often than not the ghost resembles someone from the mid 1800’s. Is this significant? Is it down to civil war “bad vibes” causing so many ghosts to be from this period? Or is it just a convenient case of old enough to be removed from anyone still alive but still modern enough to have pictures or accounts of the people available?

I hardly ever seem to see stories about Native American ghosts, or redcoats haunting an old fort for example. Why is the mid 1800’s so, for want of a better word, popular?

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Genuine question here for the believers, based on my own perceptions.

Whenever I see an American account of a ghost encounter, more often than not the ghost resembles someone from the mid 1800’s. Is this significant? Is it down to civil war “bad vibes” causing so many ghosts to be from this period? Or is it just a convenient case of old enough to be removed from anyone still alive but still modern enough to have pictures or accounts of the people available?

I hardly ever seem to see stories about Native American ghosts, or redcoats haunting an old fort for example. Why is the mid 1800’s so, for want of a better word, popular?


For the same reason people with 'old souls' being 'reborn' are always ancient Roman or Egyptian or something; rather than an Elamite gak shoveller.


 
   
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 Nostromodamus wrote:
Genuine question here for the believers, based on my own perceptions.

Whenever I see an American account of a ghost encounter, more often than not the ghost resembles someone from the mid 1800’s. Is this significant? Is it down to civil war “bad vibes” causing so many ghosts to be from this period? Or is it just a convenient case of old enough to be removed from anyone still alive but still modern enough to have pictures or accounts of the people available?

I hardly ever seem to see stories about Native American ghosts, or redcoats haunting an old fort for example. Why is the mid 1800’s so, for want of a better word, popular?


This probably straddles the line between the two threads.

I think you've more noticed that there's an obvious trend in what ghost stories tend to get mass media or popular culture attention than anything. One of the neat things in this thread is that the stories posters share here are very different from the ones that end up in book stores or blogs. Those almost always correlate to some movie that recently came out, or some period of popular history. Or Tourism. Lots of published ghost lore is ultimately about the tourism industry. This thread has had a notable lack of such common cliches, probably because it's not being filtered through financial interests.

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Makes sense, thanks. Sorry if it veered too far off topic, just a curiosity I had.

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Here's another one .. most likely all in my head from stress or whatever, but still.

My mom died a while ago. On the night she died, I was in bed, wasn't even trying to fall asleep yet.. and I heard her voice say "That's my son" plain as day, kinda like she was pointing me out and talking to someone else.

 
   
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 Nostromodamus wrote:
Genuine question here for the believers, based on my own perceptions.

Whenever I see an American account of a ghost encounter, more often than not the ghost resembles someone from the mid 1800’s. Is this significant? Is it down to civil war “bad vibes” causing so many ghosts to be from this period? Or is it just a convenient case of old enough to be removed from anyone still alive but still modern enough to have pictures or accounts of the people available?

I hardly ever seem to see stories about Native American ghosts, or redcoats haunting an old fort for example. Why is the mid 1800’s so, for want of a better word, popular?


Battleground, Indiana is named after the battle between William Henry Harrison's forces and a native uprising force. Supposedly, in a spot on the memorial site, you can hear the natives marching out to the battlefield. Haven't experienced it, but heard several people in the area who claimed to.

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 Nostromodamus wrote:
Genuine question here for the believers, based on my own perceptions.

Whenever I see an American account of a ghost encounter, more often than not the ghost resembles someone from the mid 1800’s. Is this significant? Is it down to civil war “bad vibes” causing so many ghosts to be from this period? Or is it just a convenient case of old enough to be removed from anyone still alive but still modern enough to have pictures or accounts of the people available?

I hardly ever seem to see stories about Native American ghosts, or redcoats haunting an old fort for example. Why is the mid 1800’s so, for want of a better word, popular?


Battleground, Indiana is named after the battle between William Henry Harrison's forces and a native uprising force. Supposedly, in a spot on the memorial site, you can hear the natives marching out to the battlefield. Haven't experienced it, but heard several people in the area who claimed to.


Did they hear it before or after being told about people hearing it?

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