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Made in us
Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman





Indiana

Total-1206

HQ-156
senior officer(w/honirifica imperialis)+80
melta gun+10
master vox+25
commisar(w/bolt pistol)+41


Elite-120
strom troopers+100
plasmagun+10
meltagun+10


Troops-723

platoon1- 349

command squad-77
juinor officer+40
2 plasmaguns+20
meltagun+10
2 bolt pistols+2
vox+5

Infantry squad 1-98
+60
lascannon+25
grenade launcher+8
vox+5

Infantry squad 2-88
+60
heavy bolter+15
grenade launcher+8
vox+5

Infantry squad 3-86
+60
Heavy bolter+15
flamer+6
vox+5

platoon 2-374

command squad-95
junior officer+40
2 plasmaguns+20
meltagun+10
power fist+20
vox+5

infantry squad 1-93
+60
missile launcher+20
grenade launcher+8
vox+5

infantry squad 2-93
+60
missile launcher+20
grenade launcher+8
vox+5

infantry squad 3-93
+60
auto cannon+20
grenade launcher+8
vox+5

Fast attack-55
sentinel+35
armageddon pattern+20

heavy support-

basilisk-152
+100
indirect fire+25
mine sweeper+5
pintle heavy stubber+12
track guard+10




Guard- 2500pts
Dark Angels- 1750pts
Orks- 1750pts
Empire- 2000pts
a good soldier obeys without question, a good officer commands without doubt

some times you just have to straighten your cap and die like a guardsman-anon 
   
Made in ca
Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade





The Frozen North

Don't run a Senior Officer with Honorrifica. It's more expensive than just taking a Senior Officer. It's also more expensive than taking a Junior Officer with Honorrifica. Commissars are over-estimated. His points would be better spent elsewhere.

Most people don't like Voxes, but I've found them pretty worthwhile for such cheap investments.

You have far too few Lascannons, in that one is never enough, for the Guard. You should back up your Sentinel with a friend, or two.

Basilisk has way too many upgrades. The only one I would ever recommend for it, if we aren't counting Indirect Fire, would be an Armoured Crew Compartment, to stop it being open-topped.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2008/04/13 04:39:20


Triggerbaby wrote:In summary, here's your lunch and ask Miss Creaver if she has aloe lotion because I have taken you to school and you have been burned.

Abadabadoobaddon wrote:I too can prove pretty much any assertion I please if I don't count all the evidence that contradicts it.
 
   
Made in us
Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman





Indiana

alright that seems like sound advice

Guard- 2500pts
Dark Angels- 1750pts
Orks- 1750pts
Empire- 2000pts
a good soldier obeys without question, a good officer commands without doubt

some times you just have to straighten your cap and die like a guardsman-anon 
   
Made in us
Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman





Indiana

TOTAL=3486


HQ-461
Senior officer /w carapace armour+ power weapon +65
Meltagun+10
Mastervox+25
2vetrans/w standard and medic+22

Commissar /w bolt pistol and carapace armour+46

2 mortar support squads+160

2 special weapon support squads+70
1 meltagun+15
2flamers+18
3 sniper rifles+30

Elite-540
10 storm troopers+100
plasma gun+10
Meltagun+10

10 storm troopers+100
plasma gun+10
Meltagun+10

10 ogryns+250
Bone ead+10

Troops-1484
Platoon 1-373
Command squad 1-91
Junior Officer /w power sword, plasma pistol and carapace armour+55
Meltagun+10
2plasmaguns+20
Bolt pistol+1
Vox+5
Infantry squad 1-98
10 guardsmen+60
Lascannon+25
Grenade launcher+8
Vox+5
Infantry squad 2-98
10 guardsmen+60
Lascannon+25
Grenade launcher+8
Vox+5
Infantry squad 3-86
10 guardsmen+60
Heavy bolter+15
Flamer+6
Vox+5

Platoon 2-383
Command squad-101
Junior Officer /w power fist and carapace armour+65
Meltagun+10
2plasmaguns+20
Bolt pistol+1
Vox+5
Infantry squad 1-98
10 guardsmen+60
Lascannon+25
Grenade launcher+8
Vox+5
Infantry squad 2-98
10 guardsmen+60
Lascannon+25
Grenade launcher+8
Vox+5
Infantry squad 3-86
10 guardsmen+60
Heavy bolter+15
Flamer+6
Vox+5

Platoon 3-364
Command squad-82
Junior Officer /w bolt pistol and carapace armour+46
Meltagun+10
2plasmaguns+20
Bolt pistol+1
Vox+5
Infantry squad 1-98
10 guardsmen+60
Lascannon+25
Grenade launcher+8
Vox+5
Infantry squad 2-98
10 guardsmen+60
Lascannon+25
Grenade launcher+8
Vox+5
Infantry squad 3-86
10 guardsmen+60
Heavy bolter+15
Flamer+6
Vox+5

Platoon 4-364
Command squad-82
Junior Officer /w bolt pistol and carapace armour+46
Meltagun+10
2plasmaguns+20
Bolt pistol+1
Vox+5
Infantry squad 1-98
10 guardsmen+60
Lascannon+25
Grenade launcher+8
Vox+5
Infantry squad 2-98
10 guardsmen+60
Lascannon+25
Grenade launcher+8
Vox+5
Infantry squad 3-86
10 guardsmen+60
Heavy bolter+15
Flamer+6
Vox+5

Fast Attack-261
Sentinel+35
Armageddon pattern+20
Armored crew compartment+15
Extra armour+5
Sentinel+35
Cadian patern+15
Armored crew compartment+15
Extra armour+5
Hunter killer missle+10
Sentinel+35
Cadian patern+15
Armored crew compartment+15
Extra armour+5
Hunter killer missle+10

9Rough riders+72
1rr sarge+14
10 hunting lances+30

Heavy support-720
Basilisk+100
Indirect fire+25
Armored crew compartment+20
Extra armour+5

Leman russ /w hull mouted lascannon, sponson heavy bolters+165
Extra armour+5
Pintle storm bolter+10
Track guard+10

Leman russ /w hull mouted lascannon, sponson heavy bolters+165
Extra armour+5
Pintle storm bolter+10
Track guard+10

Leman russ /w hull mouted lascannon, sponson heavy bolters+165
Extra armour+5
Pintle storm bolter+10
Track guard+10

Guard- 2500pts
Dark Angels- 1750pts
Orks- 1750pts
Empire- 2000pts
a good soldier obeys without question, a good officer commands without doubt

some times you just have to straighten your cap and die like a guardsman-anon 
   
Made in ca
Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade





The Frozen North

If HBMC sees this list, his head will explode.

Okay - Commissars aren't very good. Probably should drop him.

Mortar squads are a big ol' waste of points.

I'm not a big fan of special weapons squads, as Veteran Squads can have the same amount of special weapons, and it's cheaper, too.

Stormtroopers aren't that good. Better to drop 'em for Veterans with 3x Plas, or 3x Melta. It'd be cheaper, too.

Ogryns... Instant Death at S 8, and no save vs a whole lot, means Ogryns are going down. Better to get another 30 Guardsmen with Heavy Weapons.

Also - is your Officer really going to benefit from that Carapace Armour? Really?

Grenade Launchers aren't a good idea, unless you've got a lot of them (And even then...). Go with Plasma.

Voxes aren't a good idea, if you can make good use of Leadership bubbles.

Very bad idea to bother with upgrades for Sentinels beyond the weapons. They're toast if someone glances at them funny.

If someone wants your Basilisk dead, it's dead. No point in giving it an Armoured Crew Compartment.

Track Guards stink. Extra Armour is enough. Guard vehicles just don't need to move that desperately.

Triggerbaby wrote:In summary, here's your lunch and ask Miss Creaver if she has aloe lotion because I have taken you to school and you have been burned.

Abadabadoobaddon wrote:I too can prove pretty much any assertion I please if I don't count all the evidence that contradicts it.
 
   
 
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