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in the sm codex it says using the scions of mars trait i can upgrade my techmarine with an extra wound and make it a hq choice, does this mean i could still take a hq squad of 5 space marines in a rhino attached to the techmarine, or does this mean the techmarine has to be on it own as a hq and the 5 man hq squad would have to be another troop choice?

My understanding was that the Techmarine is used exactly in the same way as described in his entry in the codex for Elites.

So you would attach his serivtor retinue and any other items that he has access to first of all. You then take the trait that allows him to have another wound which replaces his Elite Status with the HQ status for purposes of using the force organisation chart only.

In a nutshell, the ability only really affects the order in which he is deployed, for everything else you use his entry in Elite section as if he was an elite charactor.

so am i right in the assumption that if he is a hq choice then he can take a command squad instead of a servitor retinue?

No. His entry doesn't say he can take a Command Squad, nor does Scions.

He counts as a HQ. In all other respects, his entry remains unchanged.

It's not being a HQ choice that grants access to a Command Squad... it's having an entry that says that the character can be accompanied by a Command Squad.

hellsguardian316 wrote:In a nutshell, the ability only really affects the order in which he is deployed, for everything else you use his entry in Elite section as if he was an elite charactor.

Ok, thought I had described it clearly so will spread it out a bit

NO, he can't take a HQ command squad as he is NOT a HQ charactor. He is an Elite charactor using a HQ slot in the FOC instead of using the normal Elite slot in th FOC. If he could take a command squad it would detail in the trait section that after giving him the extra wound and HQ status he would use the entry for Captains etc, as it doesn't he can only use items from his OWN section in the Elites page.

Hope this helps

ahh ok, i get you now, ok thanks for clearing that up for me