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Greetings all,

Playing around with this Marine list that I'm hoping to take to the Baltimore GT. Still need to cut 12 points somewhere. All comments welcome.

Thanks,
Mike K.


HQ: Master (1#, 151 Pts)
1 Master @ 151 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Power Weapon (x1)
1 Iron Halo @ [25] Pts
1 Jump Pack @ [20] Pts
1 Terminator Honors @ [15] Pts

Fast Attack: Assault Squad (5#, 140 Pts)
4 Assault Squad @ 140 Pts
Jump Packs; Frag Grenades; Bolt Pistol (x4); Close Combat Weapon (x4)
1 Sergeant @ [52] Pts
Jump Packs; Frag Grenades (squad); Bolt Pistol (x1); Power Fist (x1); Terminator Honors

Troops: Tactical Squad (11#, 258 Pts)
9 Tactical Squad @ 258 Pts
Bolter (x7); Plasmagun (x1); Missile Launcher (x1)
1 Rhino @ [58] Pts
Storm Bolter; Extra Armor; Smoke Launchers
1 Sergeant @ [45] Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Power Fist (x1); Terminator Honors

Troops: Tactical Squad (11#, 258 Pts)
9 Tactical Squad @ 258 Pts
Bolter (x7); Plasmagun (x1); Missile Launcher (x1)
1 Rhino @ [58] Pts
Storm Bolter; Extra Armor; Smoke Launchers
1 Sergeant @ [45] Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Power Fist (x1); Terminator Honors

Troops: Tactical Squad (6#, 180 Pts)
4 Tactical Squad @ 180 Pts
Bolter (x3); Lascannon (x1)
1 Razorback @ [90] Pts
Twin Linked Lascannon
1 Sergeant @ [15] Pts
Bolter

Troops: Tactical Squad (6#, 180 Pts)
4 Tactical Squad @ 180 Pts
Bolter (x3); Lascannon (x1)
1 Razorback @ [90] Pts
Twin Linked Lascannon
1 Sergeant @ [15] Pts
Bolter

Troops: Scout Squad (5#, 95 Pts)
4 Scout Squad @ 95 Pts
Sniper Rifle (x3); Missile Launcher (x1)
1 Sergeant @ [18] Pts
Sniper Rifle

Heavy Support: Predator Annihilator (1#, 145 Pts)
1 Predator Annihilator @ 145 Pts
Twin Linked Lascannon; Lascannon (x2)

Heavy Support: Predator Destructor (1#, 110 Pts)
1 Predator Destructor @ 110 Pts
Autocannon; Heavy Bolter (x2)

Heavy Support: Whirlwind (1#, 85 Pts)
1 Whirlwind @ 85 Pts
Vengenance Missiles; Whirlwind Multiple Missile Launcher

Fast Attack: Land Speeder Squadron (1#, 80 Pts)
1 Land Speeder Squadron @ 80 Pts
Heavy Bolter (x1); Assault Cannon (x1)

Fast Attack: Land Speeder Squadron (1#, 80 Pts)
1 Land Speeder Squadron @ 80 Pts
Heavy Bolter (x1); Assault Cannon (x1)

Total Roster Cost: 1762

Solid List! bear in mind, I play guard...and i'm not up-to-date on SM points/rules and such... so i'll use my guard Porwess!
drop a power fist in a tactical squad for a power wep. and Plasma pistle(PW5pt./PP10pt. Vs. PF20pt. IG-wize) and earlier today I stumbled upon this......

http://us.games-workshop.com/e-zine/issues/blackgobbo-06/rulesqna/default.htm

Troops: Scout Squad (5#, 95 Pts)
4 Scout Squad @ 95 Pts
Sniper Rifle (x3); Missile Launcher (x1)
1 Sergeant @ [18] Pts
Sniper Rifle

scout segeants cant cary snipas, says da Black Gobbo!



again, im not up-to-date on SMs... good luck with the Turny

Yes they can. BG 6 must've been before the 4th ed SM codex.

The black gobbo references the codex space marine faq to support it's argument that sgts cant be armed with sniper rifles.
But if one reads the codex space marine faq there is no reference to sgts or sniper rifles that I can find. I've played scout teams
with 4 sniper/1 missile launcher forever and nobody has ever questioned it, be it at a home game or leagues at my local
games workshop mall store.

Id have to strongly argue against the black gobbo on this one.

Also at the top of the black gobbo article it does mention that these rulings printed there are by no means "official"

Rats off to you!

Is it worth stacking so much stuff on a guy who only contributes a few normal Str PW attacks? TH on this guy is a waste. I think the IH is overkill, too; a Combat Shield would suffice. Also, no frag grenades for him?

Enduvus, your "Guard prowess" suggests he should drop a PF for PW + PP? I don't really know what to say to that.

As per the scouts/sniper debate, there is this from Codex: Space Marines: "Any models (including the Sergeant) may replace their standard weapons with either a shotgun or a bolter for free, or a sniper rifle at +5 points." I think I'm good.

@ TC: Yeah, I think you're right. I'm going to drop the Iron Halo for the Combat Shield and Frag Grenades. Still undecided about the TH. Probably gonna need to run the math on it. The other option I'm considering is Epistolary with Jump Pack, Combat Shield, Bolt Pistol for 146 points. It depends on how Rites of Battle gets changed in Fifth.

(Edited for horrible grammar)