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Made in hk
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Im a new blood angel player, struggling between DA or BA
but i choose BA for my first game play vs. alien

i already used as much flame as i can, 3 flamers in tactical squad, 2 heavy flamer on land speeder, flamer on Baal predator in order to cook all aliens. But still those stupid tyranid killed every man on field...

Chapter master
Death company x7
Land speeder x2
Baal predator(assualt cannon, flamer) x1
Rhino x1
Terminator(assualt cannon) x 1squad
Scout(sniper) x 2squad
Tactical squad x 2squad
Jump pack marines x 2squad

i've no idea how much points but both sides are equal.
At the first few terms, i already took down the HQ, but still owned painfully...
btw, hes a staff...
   
Made in ca
Decrepit Dakkanaut





So what actually happened in the game? What was the mission? What was the terrain like? What did your opponent take in their army, and how did they use it?
   
Made in us
Prescient Cryptek of Eternity





Mayhem Comics in Des Moines, Iowa

By your emphasis on flamers I'm assuming you were aiming to toast some Gaunts. Don't focus on those. You're better off with Heavy Bolters and the like. Take out the Warriors, Tyrant and other Synapse and his Gaunts will flee in short order.

Genestealers you'll have to kill cause they've got their Brood Mind.

If his Carnifex is decked out for HtH, you can mostly ignore it and just avoid it. If it's a shooty Fex that might be more problematic and would require some attention, though I'd still kill off his Synapse first.

Other than that, yeah....

Nurglitch wrote:So what actually happened in the game? What was the mission? What was the terrain like? What did your opponent take in their army, and how did they use it?

 
   
Made in hk
Fresh-Faced New User





he got

HQ:
Hive Tyrant

Elites:
Lictor x3

Troops:
Termaganet nd Hormagaunt Broods x2squad

Fast attack:
Spore Mine Cluster

Heavy:
Carnifex
Biovore

Those annoying mine destroyed my Baal predator at the very begining, and i spent too much force to take down the HQ. the speeders owned by Lictor (close combat --) the rest of the troops die when the tyranid met the front line...

Death match battle

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Made in us
Fresh-Faced New User




Well, the good news is that his list is really, really bad, so once you have a few games under your belt, it shouldn't be much of a problem.

Actually, his list is so bad that I wonder if he was cheating/didn't know the rules... there are some things that are kind of suspicious.

1) Was he rolling for morale properly? His termagaunts, hormagaunts (hereafter called "gaunts" for short ), carnifex, and lictors all have to pass leadership tests if they want to move if they start his turn not in combat and with no members of their squad within 12" of his tyrant. If the gaunts fail this test, they fall back toward the tyrant if it's alive, or off the board if it's not. And the gaunts are only fearless if they're within that range of the tyrant; otherwise, they have to take morale checks like normal, and only have Ld5. Kill the tyrant, and he has no other synapse in his list... most of his army will run off the board if you kill that one model.

2) Did he roll for reserves to have his spore mines come in, or did he just automatically deep strike them on turn 1 (which should be impossible)? If he did all that right, then he was just incredibly lucky to kill your tank early in the game with a spore mine. (Edit: Ah, forgot he had a biovore. If the mine was from that, yeah, he could theoretically kill the tank on turn one, but, again, pretty extreme luck).

3) He has to roll a 6 to hit a skimmer in close combat, and can only do glancing hits. Again, if he did that and still killed your speeder with a lictor, very lucky once again. And remember that your speeders are faster than his guys... they can keep their distance!

4) How on earth did he kill all those marines and terminators with hardly anything but gaunts? Did he try to tell you that they don't get armor saves? Hormagaunts are okay in close combat, but most of his army should bounce off of your T4 guys with 3+ and 2+ saves.

So, yeah, basically either your opponent just had the luckiest dice rolls of his entire life against a new player, or he skipped over a few rules when playing. Maybe both. If anything sounds fishy, I'd encourage you both to go over the main rules and the tyranid codex to make sure that he's doing everything right.

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