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More fun rules questions!

New Daemon book; I have a unit of Plaguebearers and a Herald of Nurgle on Palanquin (50x50mm base). Or Bloodletters w/ a Jugger Herald, same difference.

How do you have to rank them?

Example 1: (x is daemon, 0 is herald):

xx00xx
xx00xx
xxxxx
xxxxx

This is "five exact models wide" on all ranks. Per the rule book "The unit always has the same number of models in each rank." This is the RAW reading of this far as I can tell. We are left with an annoying irregular setup.

Example 2: (x is daemon, 0 is herald):

xx00xx
xx00xx
xxxxxx
xxxxxx

This is six "models" wide on each rank, if you count the 50x50 as 2 "bases worth". This is the most common arrangement but again, RAW I'm not sure this is correct since in theory there are 5 "models" in the front 2 ranks, and 6 in the others.

Example 3: (x is daemon, 0 is herald):

xx00x
xx00x
xxxxx
xxxxx

Same as above only 5 wide instead. Or is this arrangement no rank bonus at all since there are only four "models" in the front ranks?


Seems silly I know, but it came up in a discussion over at The Daemonic Legion and I thought I'd get some Dakka input.

EDIT: I forgot to mention, Warhammer Chronicles 2004 pg113 says to count the amount of space taken up by the model, but this was written during 6th ed. Still a valid ruling?

Everyone I've met and/or played against plays with the Chronicles 2004/ White Dwarf article as still applying. Or is a newbie and is confused as hell.

Its being left out of the main book (and the darn FAQ!) is the single biggest and most annoying editorial oversight in 7th edition.

Mannahnin wrote:Everyone I've met and/or played against plays with the Chronicles 2004/ White Dwarf article as still applying. Or is a newbie and is confused as hell.

Its being left out of the main book (and the darn FAQ!) is the single biggest and most annoying editorial oversight in 7th edition.

And what would the ruling of that article be perchance? For those of us still kinda new to the hobby (3-4 years) we may be unfamiliar with historical artifacts/rulings.

Basically that if a character on a larger base is in a unit, for rank bonuses he counts as being as many models as his base takes up the space of. With 20mm and 25mm infantry bases being considered interchangable.

So a character on a cav base in a block of 20mm or 25mm infantry counts as one model wide in each of the front two ranks. So there would only need to be 18 models in the unit (other than the character) to get full rank bonus.

A character on a 40mm or 50mm base counts as four 20mm or 25mm infantry (two models wide in each of the first two ranks) for ranks. A character on a 40mm or 50mm base counts as one model if within a unit on 40mm or 50mm bases, or two models if in a cavalry unit.

It's really simple, and makes sure that units on the table don't wind up in weird formations with the first rank or two wider just because there's a character in them.