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Had someone mention this to me when I was going on about Epidemius and the eternal warrior Nurgling Army of Doom.

Apparantly all of the Daemons 'claimed' by a god is written as Bloodletters of Khorne or Beasts of Nurgle; but Nurglings arent actually listed as being as 'of Nurgle' so then by RAW they cant claim Epidemius's benefits.

When I use fluff and common sense to try to justify it then I know Im on shaky ground.

Would anyone really rule against this seriously thou?

i saw nurglings as mini deamons or demon offspring....logically to me they're just pansie sized demons. A baby after all is the same as it's parents....

*edit* sorry, to answer your question, I wouldn't complain, they're demons as far as I'm concered, if that gives an advantage it's my problem to deal with, not yours. Sounds like a cool army! Thought about doing an all snotling army at one point, then couldn't get hold of the old pump wagon in the numbers i wanted.

Aeon wrote:

Apparantly all of the Daemons 'claimed' by a god is written as Bloodletters of Khorne or Beasts of Nurgle; but Nurglings arent actually listed as being as 'of Nurgle' so then by RAW they cant claim Epidemius's benefits.

Where did you get that idea from?

The full title for Nurglings is:

"Nurglings; Mites of Father Nurgle"


That's just as much a "daemon of Nurgle" as Plaguebearers, whose title is:

"Plaguebearers; Rotten Paladins of Nurgle"


Nurglings are clearly a daemon of Nurgle. Anyone who says otherwise is making up distinctions that are not supported by the wording of the codex.

He was referring to the actual armylist; "Chaos Daemon Army List"

The section you are referring to ; "Daemonic Forces" is mainly a collection of the fluff in question (otherwise "Plaguebearers; Rotten Paladins of Nurgle" would be construed as a different Daemon to whats listed in the "Chaos Daemon Army List"; ie "Plaguebearers of Nurgle)

Lame I know; but Im just curious if others would rule against it

Maybe they're not called that because "Nurglings of Nurgle" would just be redundant (and silly).

Seeing as how they're basically the droppings of GUO's I don't see how they could be more Nurgley.

Aeon wrote:He was referring to the actual armylist; "Chaos Daemon Army List"

The section you are referring to ; "Daemonic Forces" is mainly a collection of the fluff in question (otherwise "Plaguebearers; Rotten Paladins of Nurgle" would be construed as a different Daemon to whats listed in the "Chaos Daemon Army List"; ie "Plaguebearers of Nurgle)

Lame I know; but Im just curious if others would rule against it

There is no distinction in Epidemus's rules that says the definition for a daemon of Nurgle comes *only* from the Chaos Demon Army List section of the codex. That is a made up distinction.

The Daemonic Forces section of the codex is still part of the codex and it most certainly contains some rules text found nowhere else in the book (unit specific special rules).

The fact is, Nurglings are "daemons" (as is everything in the book) and both their name (nurglings), full title and fluff description all references that they are dedicated to Nurgle.

There is no way that someone can create a logical argument that Nurglings are not "daemons of nurgle" without creating imaginary distinctions.

As little sense as it may seem to make, Nurglings are the only non-unique entry in the Army List that does not list "of ____" as part of their listing. While I am in full agreement that Nuglings are followers of Nurgle, a standoffish RAW lawyer may make a case that would exclude Nurglings from benefitting from Epidemius because of this oversight.

Time for an errata already?

Zero_Cool wrote:As little sense as it may seem to make, Nurglings are the only non-unique entry in the Army List that does not list "of ____" as part of their listing. While I am in full agreement that Nuglings are followers of Nurgle, a standoffish RAW lawyer may make a case that would exclude Nurglings from benefitting from Epidemius because of this oversight.

Time for an errata already?

If Nurglings don't benefit for this reason, then neither do either Nurgle Greater Daemon (including the non-unique one) and Epidemius himself.

But if anyone really wanted to argue that Nurglings aren't "Followers of Nurgle," then hey, nothing is actually definied as a follower of Nurgle in any army list entry. Similar to Yak's argument, how is a Plaguebearer of Nurgle any more a follower of Nurgle than a Nurgling? Because of the word "of?" From this perspective, you'd be making up rules to label anyone a follower.

I'm definitely not "following" this argument as the daemonic forces section of the codex does contain unit special rules and descriptions.

I'll call them "Nurgley Nurglings of Nurgle" in the future just to make sure the people I play don't get confused (jks)

Like I said, I am in full agreement that Nurglings are followers of Nurgle.