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Longtime Dakkanaut





This is based off an idea I saw someone post on Warseer.

The list is incomplete because I don't have all the army books. I am also a newbie, so any units that you believe need to be added or moved to any of the categories.

Good, bad, ugly comp system

This comp system is built with the assumption that certain units are overpowered for the points they cost and certain units are underpowered for their points.

It is also built on the assumption that balanced units taken in multiples start to become unbalanced.

Another assumption is that EVERY army should be able to score perfect comp.

Another assumption is that variety makes for a more fun list to play and play against.

The last assumption is that the more units out there, the more interesting , and thus fun, the game is. Therefore unit size plays no part in this comp system.

Terminology:

Ugly: Things that are significantly overpowered for their point cost.
Good: Things that are relatively balanced for their point cost.
Bad: Things that are underpowered for their points.

Mechanics:

You start with 5 points as your comp score. Thus any penalties that you take are severe, accounting for 20% of your comp score.

Bad things can be taken in any amount with no penalty.
Each Good item or slot taken by a Good unit after the first is a -1 penalty.
Each Ugly item or each slot taken by an Ugly unit is a -1 penalty.

Units are automatically good.
Unit/character upgrades are automatically bad
Magic items are automatically good.

Examples:

A 2nd Gen Slann:

A Slann is, by default, a ‘good’ unit. No penalty is normally taken for taking a single good unit. However, a 2nd Generation Slann takes up 3 slots, so you take a 2 point penalty to your comp score for having 2 extra slots taken by a Good unit.

3 Spear Chuckas:

Spear Chuckas are by default Good units and are 2 for 1 slots. 3 Spear Chuckas use up 2 slots, so there is a 1 point penalty to the comp score for taking an extra slot with a Good unit.

Lizards:

Ugly:

4th Gen Slann
Jaguar Charm
Diadem of power
Huanchi’s blessed totem

Good:

Mark of Tepok

Bad:

Carnosaur
Core Saurus


High Elves:

Ugly:

Tyrion
Teclis
Star Lance
Vambraces of defense
Banner of Sorcery
Book of Hoeth

Bad:
Sun Dragon
Spearmen

Special:

Star Dragon is an additional -1
Dragon Mage counts as a Mage.
First Bolt Thrower is ignored.

Vampire Counts:

Ugly:

Supernatural Horror
Red Fury
Helm of Commandment
Carstein Ring
Drakenhof Banner
Banner of the Barrows
Count Manfred

Good:
Master of the Black Arts
Aura of Dark Majesty

Bad:
Zombies

Special:
Manfred the Acolyte, Isabella Von Carstein count as the hero level Vampire

Empire:

Ugly:
Dawn Armor
Aldred’s Casket of Sorcery
Van Horstmann’s Speculum
Banner of Sigismund
Karl Franz
War Altar
Steam Tank

Good:

Pegasus or Griffon

Bad:
Master Engineer
Halberdiers
Spearmen

Special:

Ludwig counts as a Captain
Luthor Huss counts as a warrior priest

Orcs & Goblins:

Ugly:
Azhag
Grimgor
Wyvern
Idol of Mork

Good:
2 Fanatics

Bad:
Goblins
Night Goblins
Snotlings

Dwarfs:

Ugly:
Rune of slowness
Master Rune of Kingship
Anvil of Doom

Good:
Rune of resistance
Rune of spell breaking
Engineering runes
Longbeards

Bad:
Rune of Iron
Dwarf Warriors

Special:

Runes are only considered Good when they are on the same character unless noted as generally being good.
Special characters count the items they have (Runes and Anvil) as part of this.

Dark Elves:

Ugly:
Banner of Nagarythe
Cauldron of blood
Morathi

Good:
Crossbows on Warriors

Bad:
Warriors


   
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Charging Bull




Rochester, New York

This kind of makes sense (if you like comp scores, I hate them) but the problem that could arise is that people would not agree one what should be catagorized as what. I think I agree with about half of that list you have. If you just post a list without discussion you'll probably have a bunch of angry players and if you let people try and decide somehow it'll never get through all the arguing. I also don't think people should have to take things that suck in order to get comp score.

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