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Hey everyone, I'm a relatively new player but I've done ALOT of research on the different units and this is my FIRST 500 point army list. My local hobby shop is doing leagues now twice a week and I'm taking this list to it on monday

Army Points: 500
Victory Points: 18
20 Pieces

1 Kommander Sorscha Kratikoff
1 Kodiak
6 Doom Reavers
6 Assault Kommandos
4 Widowmakers
1 Man-o-War Drakhun (+Dismount)
1 Manhunter

Any Suggestions would be GREAT :-D

Neither Assault Kommandos or the Widowmakers are
Fearless, so you'll have to be mindful of your placement
by the Doom Reavers. While things in Warmachine don't
tend to run away (especially if they're in CMD range of a
warcaster or commander), it's best to not leave avoidable
consequences to chance.

well should i take them out? i really want to keep my widdowmakers in, how ever i would consider removing assault kommandos. any suggestions?

@Malfred: If you're worrying about Widowmakers running away due to Abomination you're doing something wrong with the WM and DR.

@Sanity: The kommandos are probably the weak link in the list. Feel free to add in Eiryss and the Behemoth after removing the Kodiak and kommandos.

Abomination means you have to be aware of these things.
It's one thing if you just play the game and use the stuff
and everything is all good in the end, but it's another when
your opponent tells you to make a command check on your
turn based on your own movement. Both being advanced
deploy it's likely that a first time player might place the
models near each other without thinking.

I wasn't suggesting he take out the Widowmakers, but to be
careful with placement.

The first thing that jumps out in my mind is to drop the Dismount option for two more Assault Kommandos. 6 just seems low to me for some reason.

Post what other models you have. That way, we can offer advice without telling you to spend too much money on new models.

i have EVERY khador piece.

sanitysgrace wrote:i have EVERY khador piece.

Like a box of everything or full squads?

Something like the Assault Kommandos or the Doom Reavers I would imagine would like to have a larger unit size.

Doom Reavers have one size, Voodoo. Kind of like
Widowmakers.

Stop being such a Negative Nancy malfred...
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Well damn, I stand corrected. That kind of sucks, I hadn't considered using them much so I didn't see that little detail in the unit box.

Not a negative nancy. I'm sure if Fenris players could
increase the size of DOOM they would. Instead, they get to
buy another unit box.

well i bought a lot off of ebay, and it has the max allowed amount of each khador piece that is currently out. This means Solos. Units, Warcasters, Epic Warcasters, War Jacks, Unit Attachments etc

sanitysgrace wrote:well i bought a lot off of ebay, and it has the max allowed amount of each khador piece that is currently out. This means Solos. Units, Warcasters, Epic Warcasters, War Jacks, Unit Attachments etc

Sweet fancy Moses!

lol moses may be fancy but that doesnt help me with my list :-p

malfred wrote:Not a negative nancy. I'm sure if Fenris players could
increase the size of DOOM they would. Instead, they get to
buy another unit box.

I hope I didn't offend, I was trying to be sarcastic considering I was blatantly wrong.

As far as the list goes, I love the Drakhun model and I hear he's a beast, but I elected to keep him out of my first 500 point lists because he is expensive.

You could drop the Manhunter and get two more Assault Kommandos, basically the Kommandos are anti-troop duties (assuming the target has an ARM of 16-17) and the more you have in a unit the higher the amount of shots you can double tap into an enemy. I figure they're not that great in Melee so once you move up to shoot, you want to make sure you blow out whatever your target is if possible.

Personally I've been running more shooting in my main list (I run the Destroyer + Widowmakers), but that's going to change soon as I get the last few models to switch my list around. The only thing that scares me with the Doom Reavers is that I could drop an AOE on them and kill a whole bunch in one shot, and it's 100 points for 6 guys. I'm still new to WM though and I haven't used Doom Reavers with my Khador yet so I don't know exactly how to get the best mileage out of them.

its cool, you didnt offend me and well since its MY thread its not a big deal :-p

As far as taking man hunter out, he helps apply pressure.

DoomReavers/Widowmakers + sorcha = brokeness because of advanced placement, and sorcha super speedyness lol you can easily get turn 1 + turn 2 kills on warcasters.

as far as destroyer vs kodiak I chose kodia cuz he can run without focus and has a way of dealing with units that circle him closely for melee(vent steam)

Drakhun WITH dismount is only 70 points which i think is MORE then worth the sacrafice.