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Waddup, im thinking of starting to collect a marine army after playing both eldar and chaos(before the dex change)and i was trying to come up with a list that would mainly be fun to play(competitiveness would be a nice addition) so here is a list that i came up with that i think would be fun(if a little aggravating to my opponent)

Scions of Mars, Heed the wisdom of the ancients, Eye to Eye

HQ:Techmarine(extra wound, servo-harness, iron halo,temie honours,bolt pistol,techservitor, 2 combat servitors, gunservitor w/plasma cannon, all in a razorback with extra armor and smoke)-336pts
Reclusiarch(Terminator armor)
Terminator Command squad(sergeant w/3 termies, heavy flamer, assault cannon)-300pts

Elites:Venerable DreadnaughtX3(heavy flamer,furious assault,extra armor,smoke,drop-pod)-183pts each(549pts total)

Troop:6 man Tactical Squad(plasma gun, Razorback w/extra armor, smoke)
6 man Tactical Squad(plasma gun, Razorback w/extra armor, smoke)

Heavy SupportreadnaughtX3(heavy flamer, extra armor, smoke, drop-pod)-153pts each(459pts)

Total:2000pts

I am thinking about dropping the techmarine HQ and re-working the whole HQ section so i could have more points to spend on tactical squads with plasma in razorbacks. Maybe a Commander HQ with a ten man command squad and a drop pod or with a termie Command squad that teleports?

Tell me what you think about it

Uhhh wait a couple months for...

5th edition, revamp (July)
Cheap marines in the box set (August or Sep?)
New Marine Codex and all that stuff you're talking about goes poof (October)

I didn't say I was going to buy anything yet, in fact it will definitly be a while as I have a few other expensive projects for the summer. I just wanted to post a list and see what everyone thought about it, also I like to have a set list before I even contemplate buying anything.

Never ever take razorbacks with the current marine codex, complete and utter waste of points. For that 140 points you spent on them you could have bought a dev squad with four heavy bolters...

so you would suggest scrapping the razorbacks? What about rhinos? I just really wanted the tac squads in transports and two of six in razorbacks worked out points wise. What would you suggest the actual change be? And i would take devs but my heavy support is all filled with dreads which is kinda the idea for the army.

Wait for October, buy new book, get marines for cheap in 5th edition box *times two* then come back and ask us then.

Well there is that too. your list may not actually be viable in four months. The new SM codex is supposedly knocking off traits so you won't be able to take dreads as heavy support anyways. But as for the razorbacks, if you dropped both you could get yourself some bikers or attack bikes. If your looking for mobility they could easily do the trick.

yeah the list was meant to be more of a fluffy/fun to play army. Sucks they might be knocking out traits though.

So if there wasnt new rules and stuff coming out and the list itselfwas in question under the current dex what im wondering about changes to the troops and hq sections mainly. I was contemplating dropping scions of mars and taking cleanse and purify for dual plasmas and taking full size tactical squads in rhinos like that instead to put more models on the table in place of my 500 pt hq selections.