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Hi everyone, I have been working on expanding a small tau force i had into 1700 points. I would like some input on what i have here and most importantly explain what this army list is for. You see I'm replacing all the Tau Battlesuits with VF-01 Valkyries. Hence the combination of burst cannon and missile launcher is thematic and something i don't want to loose if it all possible. Well onto the list:

157 Points
1 x Shas'o XV8 Crisis 75
- Cyclic Ion Blaster 15
- Missile Pod 12
- Energy Field 20
- Hard Wired Multi Tracker 5
- Iridium Armour 20
- Stim Injector 10

300 Points
1 x Shas'o XV8 Crisis 75
- Burst Cannon 8
- Missile Pod 12
- Energy Field 20
- Hard Wired Target Lock 5
- Hard Wired Multi Tracker 5
- Bonding Knife 5

2 x Shas'Vre XV8 Crisis 70
- Burst Cannon 16
- Missile Pod 24
- Energy Field 40
- Hard Wired Multi Tracker 10
- Hard Wired Target Lock 10

Elites
Crisis Unit 190
2 x Shas'ui XV8 Crisis 50
- Burst Cannon 16
- Missile Pod 24
- Multi Tracker 10

1 x Shas'Vre XV8 Crisis 35
- Burst Cannon 8
- Missile Pod 12
- Shield Generator 20
- Hard Wired Multi Tracker 5
- Hard Wired Target Lock 5
- Bonding Knife 5

Crisis Unit 190
2 x Shas'ui XV8 Crisis 50
- Burst Cannon 16
- Missile Pod 24
- Multi Tracker 10

1 x Shas'Vre XV8 Crisis 35
- Burst Cannon 8
- Missile Pod 12
- Shield Generator 20
- Hard Wired Multi Tracker 5
- Hard Wired Target Lock 5
- Bonding Knife 5

Crisis Unit 190
2 x Shas'ui XV8 Crisis 50
- Burst Cannon 16
- Missile Pod 24
- Multi Tracker 10

1 x Shas'Vre XV8 Crisis 35
- Burst Cannon 8
- Missile Pod 12
- Shield Generator 20
- Hard Wired Multi Tracker 5
- Hard Wired Target Lock 5
- Bonding Knife 5

Troops
6 Shas'la Fire Warriors 60 Points
6 Shas'la Fire Warriors 60 Points

Heavy Support
Broadside Unit - 180 Points
1 x Shas'ui XV-88 Broadside 70
- Targetting Array 10

1 x Shas'Vre XV-88 Broadside 80
- Targetting Array 10
- Hard Wired Target Lock 5
- Hard Wired Multi Tracker 5

Heavy Support
Broadside Unit - 180 Points
1 x Shas'ui XV-88 Broadside 70
- Targetting Array 10

1 x Shas'Vre XV-88 Broadside 80
- Targetting Array 10
- Hard Wired Target Lock 5
- Hard Wired Multi Tracker 5

Heavy Support
Broadside Unit - 180 Points
1 x Shas'ui XV-88 Broadside 70
- Targetting Array 10

1 x Shas'Vre XV-88 Broadside 80
- Targetting Array 10
- Hard Wired Target Lock 5
- Hard Wired Multi Tracker 5

1687 Points

It's a Tau suit army. It has strengths and weaknesses.

If this is what you like, run with it.

Burst Cannon + Missile Pod are for theme, but I hope you know they aren't considered optimal loadouts.

It looks overall like a glass hammer list to me.

Quite a bit of cash too.

Stelek wrote:Quite a bit of cash too.

Crisis Suits aren't too bad if you pick them up in rapid insertion force box. $125 for 9 suits and 3 stealth suits.

Well this is a counts as list so i wont actually be using GW models for it but similairly scaled Macross Valkyries. So far i am in for about 250 dollars and i have only a few more battlesuits to go

Oops you're right. I'm silly. So used to the prices I actually paid for them. lol

Just curious, but what would be considered by dakkaites to be an optimal weapon loadout?

twin linked missile pods with targeting array (aka reaper autocannon!)

or

fireknife -missile pod+plasma+multitracker

other optimizers:
never take an shas´o! "el+targeting array > o"
dont waste points on shield generators, iridium armour, stims,... !

in 5th edition are a minimum of 2 gundrones per crisis unit a must!!!


greetings Badger

What you really need more of is low AP weaponry to deal with 2+ saves. Also, with a grand total of 12 Firewarriors, you'll have a very hard time holding objectives in 5th Edition.

I don't wanna think about fifth edition until i am actually holding the rulebook in my hands. After which i hope a new tau codex comes soon in which i can actually get some battle suits as a troop choice cus i just don't want fire warriors at all :(

You can probably bet on the Shas'la sticking around for quite a while. They pretty much make up the core of any Tau army list. Plus with 5th edition looming around the corner and and troops gaining new importance their importance is solidified.

Although who knows, perhaps we will see alternative army lists becoming more frequent with different missions to accomidate them!

I retought my list a bit, I wonder if i should swap 1 unit of fire warriors and a devil fish for pathfinders though.. What exactly is the new claiming rule in fifth edition, just troops?

HQ
Crisis HQ 325 Points
1 x Shas'o XV8 Crisis 75
- Cyclic Ion Blaster 15
- Missile Pod 12
- Energy Field 20
- Hard Wired Target Lock 5
- Hard Wired Multi Tracker 5
- Stim Injector 10
- Bonding Knife 5

2 x Shas'Vre XV8 Crisis 70
- Fusion Blaster 24
- Missile Pod 24
- Energy Field 40
- Hard Wired Multi Tracker 10
- Hard Wired Target Lock 10

Elites
Crisis Unit 190
2 x Shas'ui XV8 Crisis 50
- Burst Cannon 16
- Missile Pod 24
- Multi Tracker 10

1 x Shas'Vre XV8 Crisis 35
- Burst Cannon 8
- Missile Pod 12
- Shield Generator 20
- Hard Wired Multi Tracker 5
- Hard Wired Target Lock 5
- Bonding Knife 5

Troops
Shas'La Fire Warriors x 10 - 135 points
Shas'Ui Fire Warrior x 1
- Markerlight
- Bonding Knife

Shas'La Fire Warriors x 10 - 135 points
Shas'Ui Fire Warrior x 1
- Markerlight
- Bonding Knife

Shas'La Fire Warriors x 10 - 135 points
Shas'Ui Fire Warrior x 1
- Markerlight
- Bonding Knife

Devilfish x 1 - 120 points
- Smart Missile System
- Targetting Array
- Disruption Pod
- Multitracker

Devilfish x 1 - 120 points
- Smart Missile System
- Targetting Array
- Disruption Pod
- Multitracker

Heavy Support
Broadside Unit - 180 Points
1 x Shas'ui XV-88 Broadside 70
- Targetting Array 10

1 x Shas'Vre XV-88 Broadside 80
- Targetting Array 10
- Hard Wired Target Lock 5
- Hard Wired Multi Tracker 5

Heavy Support
Broadside Unit - 180 Points
1 x Shas'ui XV-88 Broadside 70
- Targetting Array 10

1 x Shas'Vre XV-88 Broadside 80
- Targetting Array 10
- Hard Wired Target Lock 5
- Hard Wired Multi Tracker 5

Heavy Support
Broadside Unit - 180 Points
1 x Shas'ui XV-88 Broadside 70
- Targetting Array 10

1 x Shas'Vre XV-88 Broadside 80
- Targetting Array 10
- Hard Wired Target Lock 5
- Hard Wired Multi Tracker 5

If you upgrade broadsides to leaders, take the night fighting wargear...always. You might want some drones on your broadsides, else the lascannons are going to drop the suits.

If you split the crisis HQ into separate elites, you can double your number of crisis suits.

Tau live and die on their crisis suits.

Honest!

Devilfish with disruption pods...nearly pointless. I'd take 3 pirahnas over those any day.